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Prospect Info: At 16th Overall the Rangers Select Brennan Othmann

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Look I actually like the player and the pick is right where he was projected to go. we have an ABUNDANCE of wingers that we actually had to trade one and ended up with TWO more the same day. We have an abundance of defenseman and we traded UP for Schneider last year despite knowing he's CLEARLY blocked by Fox and Trouba minimum and maybe Nils. (same thing with Nils). Playing these guys on 3rd and 4th lines/pairings isn't going to make them worth their draft slot.

meanwhile THE MOST IMPORTANT position on the ice is pretty damn barren except for Chytil (who may be better on the wing).
 
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Glass half full thinking for today and really the past few days:

  • The Rangers have a plan to address center with a high skilled option
  • They want to insulate their top guys with bangers
  • Buch is a luxury they can no longer afford with a new center coming in so he's gone. Replaced with immediate depth in Blais and Goodrow
  • When Blais and other depth (Gauthier? Kreider in 3+ years? Chytil? Barron? Honestly not sure) begin to cost too much, guys like Othmann, Cuyle, and Bedard are hopefully backfilling some holes while our top end guys are still going.

In the glass half empty view, we lost Buch for pennies on the dollar. The center plans fell through. We took a player who may be useful but was not an organizational need and you could certainly argue not BPA.

Remains to be seen if Drury has his ducks in a row or goofed up in his first big week.
 
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Savant said:
The Rangers need Centers both Now and Later. This 3-5 year argument is a bad one. the org chart is barren.
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Not necessarily. They may resign Zibby. They have Chytil. They will most likely address center with another move. Again, all things being equal, sure, take the center. Obviously, they didn't believe all things were equal or that Othmann brings something else to the table that they desire.
 
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I mean I think they look at him as someone that you peg on a line with the stars that goes to the dirty areas and benefits from the talent of those stars. You see that when he played with Wright so I could totally see him win Laf or Kakko down the line.
 
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I wouldn't say I love the pick, but I'm not getting my panties in a twist either. Especially, when few, if any people here have ever even watched the kid play a game.

Watch the kid crush the WJC and fly up people's radar like a Holloway last year.
 
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The kid was thrown into a new league on a different continent with the sole purpose of bettering his game and covid factors into all this as well. He is hungry, plays hard, and has a laser of a shot. Personally I go by skill, hustle, character, skating. If the skill is there, the hustle has to be met. His skill is stop six upside, but his hustle is probably tops in this draft. Let him develop and a marchard lite who is bigger will be available. Kreider wasn't drury's signing and we already paid the price for it with buch. I know we want a center, but I feel drury is going to shift focus from eichel, just until the price falls to something more reasonable. Again, this is negotiating and no team bit on buffalo's ask. Drury probably stuck to his guns and didn't want to overpay. That being said, we now have strome/lundkvist/schneider/jones/roberston as potential chips. We have picks now, like the 2nd from the buch trade. Drury's best now is to go get a center to compliment mika. Make sure its a top six 2way center because it seems goodrow will either be on the 2nd or 3rd and kravstov will be on the 3rd/2nd with kakko as 1st/2nd. Im looking for a big jump because of development curve and covid impact will be less as they can get a regulsr season going. Like the pic, would have had no problem with a center.
 
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Funny that sometimes grit and agitator automatically mean 'lacking talent'. I have no idea if he has a legit chance to be a future Marchand type, but let's at least give him a couple years and give him a fair shake.
 
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Hi ImHFNYR said:
I feel like the most common refrain around CK is the opposite "God his strength, size and skating just ooze so much more potential and he never reaches it. He is what he is at this point"

He certainly didnt bust of course but I just feel like his whole career we've waited for him to become more
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You can say that about a lot of players. But any time you draft a guy 15-20 and he turns out like CK, you should be beyond thrilled.
 
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Barnaby said:
All likely to not play in the league for 3-5 years. Who knows what the center depth will look like by then. At that point, it may be a need and it may not. All things being equal I'd prefer more center depth, but if they felt this kid was a better player/fit then I'm all for it. In 4 years half this roster may be turned over.

Knee jerk reactions when you've never or have rarely seen a player is fine, but I wouldn't overdo it.

For every Mcilrath who the board didn't want there's a Derek Stepan that the board didn't like either.

Look at the Lias Andersson pick... they opted for the center and Stepan replacement and it didn't work. He wasn't the best BPA. If they had taken another position that panned out you wouldn't be sitting here years later thrilled that they took Lias over another LW or RD.
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Bad example when Nick Suzuki was on the board still.
 
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Sometimes you draft the BPA for a need, especially when you have so many damn prospects you can't even ice them all
 
LaffyTaffyNYR said:
Look I actually like the player and the pick is right where he was projected to go. we have an ABUNDANCE of wingers that we actually had to trade one and ended up with TWO more the same day. We have an abundance of defenseman and we traded UP for Schneider last year despite knowing he's CLEARLY blocked by Fox and Trouba minimum and maybe Nils. (same thing with Nils). Playing these guys on 3rd and 4th lines/pairings isn't going to make them worth their draft slot.

meanwhile THE MOST IMPORTANT position on the ice is pretty damn barren except for Chytil (who may be better on the wing).
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I am with you 100%. There were a number of terrific Centers left on the board and and I am not even sold Othmann was the BPA. I had at least 5 players I thought were more so, the BPA who could have still been taken. My jaw was on the floor. I would have happily taken Lucius, Lysell, Bolduc, Svechkov, Ceulemans, and probably the actual BPA, Wallstedt. at this point. I guess the play was really Lucius though, who seemed liked the perfect type of center to me to let grow at his own pace for a few years.

I don't believe Othmann was the BPA at the time. I think Othmann just brings some physicality and power which is needed, but IMO, not when you can add high end talent for the same price. I guess we will see, maybe Othmann does have both. But like the trade for Blais earlier in the day, this seems like poor asset management to an extent.

In one day, Drury has made me go from optimism to head scratching and a bit of "wtf his he up to? Omg I hope he's the right guy for the job."

He still may be the right guy for the job. But thees choices are going to have to prove themselves in the long run.

I wouldn't call this the most auspicious start to his tenure.
 
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Gardner McKay said:
You can say that about a lot of players. But any time you draft a guy 15-20 and he turns out like CK, you should be beyond thrilled.
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Agreed. I think the thing with Kreider is he has all the tools but is consistently inconsistent. Like he could elevate his game another level but just never gets there.
 
I mean, sure? Seems like he has a pretty solid bag and grit. I think he makes it as a middle 6 player, which is alright I guess.
 
I'll reserve judgement until I see what the center ice position looks like on opening night.. but man right now we have two centers who are both UFAs after this season and Chytil as the only options for one long term anytime soon.
 
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Guyute said:
HFNYR: Draft the best player available

NYR: We are proud to select LW Brennan Othman

HFNYR: why in gods name did we take another LW?
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If you think he was the BPA sure. I am not in that camp though. I thought Lucius, Bolduc, Ceulemans or Lysell would have made better picks. Even Svechkov or Raty frankly. All though perhaps Raty falling means many GM's agreed that he wasn't worth the pick at this point. But that still leaves 5 other players I thought were "BPA" ahead of Othmann. Wallstedt was probably the actual BPA but I guess goalies don't count in that? I am still trying to work out why Cossa went ahead of him. But hey, this day was just full of surprises.

Ultimately, I feel like they took Othmann for the same reason they were ok moving Buch for Blais and a 2nd. Because "physicality", "strength" and "grit". Three things, that sure we can use, but aren't exactly the most difficult traits to find in rounds 2-7 or on the FA market any given year. So Othmann really better bring a heap of a talent with that power.
 
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