Prospect Info: At 16th Overall the Rangers Select Brennan Othmann

[Rempe73]

I was not in until they describe how he doesn't want to hang out, he doesn't want to waste time getting to the gym, he wants to use it to get better and works out like a Bastard in his garage. I want the sociopath who only gives a shit about hockey. That's who you win with.

Lmfaooooo

Big if true though

 

[nyr2k2]

I had to unfollow Sean Hartnett on Twitter for being completely f***ing insufferable all day long.

 

[Edge]

Was rooting for Svechkov but this kid sounds promising even though I don't know where he fits in with all the other wingers. What do you think of the pick?

I like him but I wouldn't have taken him at 16. It kind of falls in line with the last few days. I like the players, not crazy about the management aspects or the value.

I think Drury has a very clear vision of what he wants to do with the middle of the lineup and what he wants coming through the pipeline (diverse support players). Whether people agree with the approach is another discussion,

 

[Blueblood9]

i repeat what i said earlier you cant draft a C cause you need one now if this is the player they had as BPA then its the right pick. Im not a scout pro or amatuer like many on here that have more knowledge in what to look for. I go but what i read and whats projected in many mocks and he was slotted in the middle of the 1st in many of them. I would assume that many of the players in this range are so tightly grouped that you can look on 5 different boards and have 5 different rankings.

 

[mike14]

Surprised (I know I shouldn't be) that there's so much dislike for this pick. Seems like he's the exact kind of guy you'd want with a mid-round 1st. Some top-6 upside and a skill-set that should also work on lower lines if he doesn't hit his potential.
Fine he might not be 'your' guy, but the chance of the Rangers (or any team) exactly following your ranking order is pretty slim

 

[Savant]

Answer me this of the C available which would be a C in the NHL. Cause if we drafted a C and he ended up projected as a winger it be the same thing

I brought this point up a lot over the last 18 months and I think it’s a fair one. That being said there are two answers to this.

• Lucius - the “this kid is good enough we roll the dice and hope he can stay at center” argument; which is probably similar to the conversation Columbus had at 5 when they took Kent Johnson earlier than projected
• Svechkov - the “gun to my head I need a center now” argument

Both of those guys were ranked in The same range, if not higher than Othmann

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

Its just insane the Rangers have ignored centers in the draft as bad as the Giants have ignored pass rushers and the Yankees have ignored left handed bats recently. All which are needed for their teams to succeed.

 

[Hinterland]

I mean if you can say that I can say if Othmann was that good, Dallas tells Detroit to screw off and keeps him for themselves. Also how do we know he was Dallas pick

I'm confident given their strategy and Flint connection. Dallas needed more picks because they haven't had many and this is the draft to trade down.

 

[Savant]

Okay he’s not a center. He still has a skillset to be a first round pick. Lets see what this roster looks like in 2-3 years.

I mean I don’t think we have a choice otherwise. Well I have a choice I don’t get MSG anymore.

 

[Savant]

I'm confident given their strategy and Flint connection. Dallas needed more picks because they haven't had many and this is the draft to trade down.

Okay, so no evidence. Got it. If they like the guy so much they would have taken him. They certainly reached on Wyatt Johnson so they wouldn’t have been afraid to go off the board to get their guy.

 

[Blueblood9]

I brought this point up a lot over the last 18 months and I think it’s a fair one. That being said there are two answers to this.

• Lucius - the “this kid is good enough we roll the dice and hope he can stay at center” argument; which is probably similar to the conversation Columbus had at 5 when they took Kent Johnson earlier than projected
• Svechkov - the “gun to my head I need a center now” argument

Both of those guys were ranked in The same range, if not higher than Othmann

Fair enough. All I know is as a fan of Hockey and Football ive seen many teams ruin themselves drafting for need in the early rounds and not BPA.

 

[EpicDing]

Surprised (I know I shouldn't be) that there's so much dislike for this pick. Seems like he's the exact kind of guy you'd want with a mid-round 1st. Some top-6 upside and a skill-set that should also work on lower lines if he doesn't hit his potential.
Fine he might not be 'your' guy, but the chance of the Rangers (or any team) exactly following your ranking order is pretty slim

People only dislike him beacause he's a LW instead if a C who will be a LW when he makes the NHL

 

[broadwayblue]

I like him but I wouldn't have taken him at 16. It kind of falls in line with the last few days. I like the players, not crazy about the management aspects or the value.

I think Drury has a very clear vision of what he wants to do with the middle of the lineup and what he wants coming through the pipeline (diverse support players). Whether people agree with the approach is another discussion,

Thanks. I do wonder why this team is so opposed to drafting centers. Lol

 

[CLW]

I don’t have a problem with the Rangers going BPA. I do have a problem with the Rangers thinking Othmann is BPA.

I feel they drafted a future 4th liner knowing he has grit and sandpaper and enough skill to play. BPA was simply BPA within that template, not actual BPA in terms of best hockey player.

 

[Savant]

Fair enough. All I know is as a fan of Hockey and Football ive seen many teams ruin themselves drafting for need in the early rounds and not BPA.

You have to draft for Need and BPA. Drafting for need gets you in trouble when you force a pick make a stupid reach. Not when you take the right guy. I would love nothing more than Kreider going away, but until he does you are either burying a guy or playing him out of position. That is not setting them up for success.

 

[mike14]

Its just insane the Rangers have ignored centers in the draft as bad as the Giants have ignored pass rushers and the Yankees have ignored left handed bats recently. All which are needed for their teams to succeed.

8 centres in the last 4 drafts (not counting this one). 4 in the first 3 rounds (2 1sts, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)

 

[Michal]

Do you think he is ready for bottom six role in nhl since October 2021?

 

[Barnaby]

I brought this point up a lot over the last 18 months and I think it’s a fair one. That being said there are two answers to this.

• Lucius - the “this kid is good enough we roll the dice and hope he can stay at center” argument; which is probably similar to the conversation Columbus had at 5 when they took Kent Johnson earlier than projected
• Svechkov - the “gun to my head I need a center now” argument

Both of those guys were ranked in The same range, if not higher than Othmann

All likely to not play in the league for 3-5 years. Who knows what the center depth will look like by then. At that point, it may be a need and it may not. All things being equal I'd prefer more center depth, but if they felt this kid was a better player/fit then I'm all for it. In 4 years half this roster may be turned over.

Knee jerk reactions when you've never or have rarely seen a player is fine, but I wouldn't overdo it.

For every Mcilrath who the board didn't want there's a Derek Stepan that the board didn't like either.

Look at the Lias Andersson pick... they opted for the center and Stepan replacement and it didn't work. He wasn't the best BPA. If they had taken another position that panned out you wouldn't be sitting here years later thrilled that they took Lias over another LW or RD.

 

[Hinterland]

Okay, so no evidence. Got it. If they like the guy so much they would have taken him. They certainly reached on Wyatt Johnson so they wouldn’t have been afraid to go off the board to get their guy.

A lot of evidence. Their Flint connection is well known and they drafted a lot of similar players lately. Button and others also had Othmann go to Dallas. It would have been the logical pick for them but they haven't had many so I get why they traded down.

 

[CLW]

If this guy is the next Comtois I don't think anyone will complain too much. Good luck to the new Ranger.

 

[2014nyr]

sooo...when do we add any speed?

 

[mike14]

Do you think he is ready for bottom six role in nhl since October 2021?

Of course not. Probably 2+ years (like most of this draft class)

 

[Savant]

All likely to not play in the league for 3-5 years. Who knows what the center depth will look like by then. At that point, it may be a need and it may not. All things being equal I'd prefer more center depth, but if they felt this kid was a better player/fit then I'm all for it. In 4 years half this roster may be turned over.

Knee jerk reactions when you've never or have rarely seen a player is fine, but I wouldn't overdo it.

For every Mcilrath who the board didn't want there's a Derek Stepan that the board didn't like either.

Look at the Lias Andersson pick... they opted for the center and Stepan replacement and it didn't work. He wasn't the best BPA. If they had taken another position that panned out you wouldn't be sitting here years later thrilled that they took Lias over another LW or RD.

The Rangers need Centers both Now and Later. This 3-5 year argument is a bad one. the org chart is barren.

 

[CaptTennille]

I'm having a hard time understanding the hate outside of wanting a center. Othmann has always reminded me of Alex Tuch as a draft eligible - a pro ready shot and versatile release, an awkward/raw stride but still gets where he needs to go and a nose for the net. Yes he's physical, but NYR is drafting him with the hope that he becomes a defensively responsible goal scorer as opposed to a "Tom Wilson deterrent". I understand it's not a sexy pick, but it doesn't seem to be a reach (IMO). For the record, I wanted Svechkov, but I could also easily see him top out as a Namestikov type in the NHL.

 

[Hinterland]

Do you think he is ready for bottom six role in nhl since October 2021?

You mean next season? Not a chance. He's gonna need time. He needs to find consistency and improve offensive instincts and his decision making in general before he's anywhere close to NHL level. Lots of room for improvement, especially regarding shot selection.