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Prospect Info: At 16th Overall the Rangers Select Brennan Othmann

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Feel like the Buch trade is souring this pick for some. If he didn’t have a bad point scoring 10-12 game stretch as a 17/18 year old in a men’s league people would be super high on this pick. He is the type of guy that effects the game even when isn’t scoring and he has skill to put up points as well. In a weak draft year he is a good player to take a flyer on.

Kid is a super hard worker will not be surprised if he pans out.
 
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He's best friends with Shane Wright. I think this may be part of a long term plan to get Wright in here as the C of the future. All he needs is Othmann to tell him some great things about the organization and convince him this is the place to be. Wright can then say he wants to be traded to the Rangers after he is drafted.
 
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SA16 said:
He's best friends with Shane Wright. I think this may be part of a long term plan to get Wright in here as the C of the future. All he needs is Othmann to tell him some great things about the organization and convince him this is the place to be. Wright can then say he wants to be traded to the Rangers after he is drafted.
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So you’re saying Drury is a 4D chess player after all?
 
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Slept on it. Still hate the pick. If the logic is you are taking Othmann because he is a good bet to be a nice bottom six player, you just take Svechkov instead who is better and can do it at center.

I hate the pick. Not a bad player, just does not (at this juncture) make sense for the Rangers. He is more than welcome to prove me wrong though and hope that he succeeds.
 
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SA16 said:
He's best friends with Shane Wright. I think this may be part of a long term plan to get Wright in here as the C of the future. All he needs is Othmann to tell him some great things about the organization and convince him this is the place to be. Wright can then say he wants to be traded to the Rangers after he is drafted.
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He is a center tho.

oh missed traded after someone else drafted NVM
 
eco's bones said:
Not going to lie. I probably had at least 6 guys ahead of Othmann when we took him and really wanted Wallstedt. That said he is a legit 1st round player and is another player who addresses our being too soft problem and we have been too soft. The Rangers don't lack on talent....the problem is more the compete and also our depth at both defense and forward. If our bottom pairing and 4th lines suck we're not going to be a contender and it's as simple as that. We need guys we can go to war with.
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hit the nail on the head brother. I think they feel the top 6 LaF, Kakko, Panarin, Kravtsov, and Zibby/Eichel are going to be locked in for the next 5 or so years. Some guys longer. Now it’s about stocking the cupboard with cheap talented guys with bite that you can integrate slowly year by year when some secondary guys start to price themselves out.
Goodrow and Blais address it immediately, but the vision is clear of the type of fwd they want to bring up for that middle / bottom 6 role going fwd. the good news is between Barron, Berard, Vierling, Edstrom, Cuyelle, and now Othmann hopefully the rangers won’t have to overpay for that type of effort/skill mix in the future.
Gorton started to address this last year but I guess it was too late for Dolan.
The vision of the player they want on D is pretty similar if you ask me. They want big guys who don’t shy away from contact, but they all move the puck well.
Robertson, Miller, Schneider all fit his vision.
Thank god we were gifted with Adam Fox and hopefully Nils too if he’s not traded.
The rangers are going to be a tough play for a long time.
 
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SingnBluesOnBroadway said:
But the toughness you're talking about isn't just about toughness. Goodrow and Blais are not Stu Bickel, they are guys who can add a physical element and open ice for guys. Most importantly, these are guys who will play regular shifts. Reading more about Othmann and he isn't just a "jam" player either. He seems to the more of a Graves-type player more than a Hollweg. He could be what we all hoped Dubinsky would become.

Ultimately, it's being teams that can win games in more ways.
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Maybe toughness isn't the right word. Maybe sandpaper is more accurate. But it still remains that we paid premium prices for two players that have never reached 30 points and drafted a player that likely has less upside than other available players for more sandpaper.

I admit that the return on the Buch trade is affecting my opinion on the other two moves. If we had gotten a better return, I would probably feel better about the other moves.

But back to Othmann specifically, I am in general leery of of the safer "he'll at least be a good depth player" picks in the first round. They never seem to become much for us (Andersson, Skjei, McIlrath, Korpikoski, Lundmark, Malhotra).
 
SA16 said:
He was 16th on McKenzies list and we took him 16th (really 15th). The complaints about this pick are outrageous. They took a guy exactly where he was projected to be taken.
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Not to mention that he's not really a "safe" pick. I think the Rangers and others in the know see top 6 upside there. Lias was a big reach, Othmann is not
 
SA16 said:
He was 16th on McKenzies list and we took him 16th (really 15th). The complaints about this pick are outrageous. They took a guy exactly where he was projected to be taken.
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I guess it's the BPA vs positional need argument and I do agree about always going. BPA but damn do we really need centers and not another LH winger with a capped offensive ceiling.
 
I think we’re nuts passing on wallstedt but if we liked Cossa the most and Othmann was second choice then that’s fine.

I really like the Grubbe pick and we just made a really strong high reward pick with Korczak

two centers here that actually defend
 
ThirdEye said:
Not to mention that he's not really a "safe" pick. I think the Rangers and others in the know see top 6 upside there. Lias was a big reach, Othmann is not
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I would say that he's a pretty safe bottom six pick. At the very worst you get an energy guy with a good shot. Obviously, there's much more upside, he just needs to put it together.
 
RangerBoy said:
The Rangers need more rough and tumble players. It's weird because everyone screams and yells about the Rangers being a soft team. When the off-season arrives they go back to the previous mindset. We need more skill guys. We need more soft guys.

Schneider is a rough and tumble player. Barely nobody likes him. Let us include in the trade for Eichel. We will play Lundkvist who is the smaller skilled guy. The issue is we already have Fox who is below 6-0. If you look at the recent teams which won Cups, the majority of those teams have big D. I love the proposed lineups with Fox, Lundkvist and Jones. That defense will be destroyed. Then we wonder how come the Rangers never win.

Othmann is a rough and tumble player. The Rangers need that element. Schneider and Othmann are both rough and tumble guys.

The Rangers need players with steel in their balls.
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Completely disagree about a defense consisting of Fox, Lundqvist and Jones being "destroyed". It wholly depends on who you pair them with. If you pair those 3, with Miller, Lindgrem and eventually Schneider, there is not way that "defense will be destroyed" on the basis of lack of "rough and tumble" or even "size". Lindgren is just 6 ft I think, yet he's one of our most "rough and tumble" and defensively positive players. Miller has size, but his "rough and tumble" would rank somewhere below Lindgren. Scheider is the type of player you are talking about and it's good to have one of those in the lineup. But you don't need 4, 5 or 6 of them to win.

It's more about balance, which I would suggest a defense of Fox, Lindgren, Lundqvist, Miller, Jones and Schneider would theoretically be.

Also, size is often way overrated compared to "physicality". Again, see Lindgren. The Rangers all ready have some tough elements. They just added Goodrow, and unfortunately they added Blais in the way they did.

I am pretty sure the Othmann was at least partially based on the idea that we will not be re-signing Panarin when his contract is up. Assuming we still have Kreider at that point, along with Laff, Kakko and Kravtsov. Othmann is plausibly a guy who can take over as 2LW or 3LW. Moving Laff to the top line and Kreider or Othmann as 2lw, 3lw in whichever order.

A lot of people won't like that idea. But honestly, can anyone see continuing to pay Panarin when we have to also eventually pay guys like Laff, Kakko, Kravtsov, Fox, Miller, Lidgren, Shesterkin etc..? I don't see how they would be able to fit all that and Panarin under the cap.
 
Polar Bear said:
If you get a Morrow type with a mid first round selection, you sign up for that any day.
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Sure. If that's what you are actually getting. Still suggest this pick was taken with a sight on a Ranger team without Panarin at the end of 25-2026 season. Not to replace Panarin's output, but to fit in the middle 6 LW, with Laff, Kakko and probably Kravtsov as other wingers. Can't pay them all and Panarin when the time comes. And theoretically would be a more physical top 9 player. I assume we still have Kreider at that point too.

Doesn't mean I like the pick though.
 
SnowblindNYR said:
This is exactly why I hate it when people criticize the Rangers for not having good 3rd and 4th liners. Many guys that have similar skillsets become busts.
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Re-reading the thread when Lias got picked, so many "not flashy but safe" analysis. Yes, super safe pick.
 
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