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I'm NY through and through since I took my first breath in this world but you can accuse me of being sort of a Eurosnob. I'm a Real Madrid fan. As bad as it gets. I could give a **** about English teams or German teams and I feel the Italian league back in the 80's/90's was the best "soccer" ever played. I have kind of given up on the MLS. I do not believe it will improve with a salary cap but I understand why its necessary so the lesser market teams can survive as the sport will not survive in the country if it doesnt spread. That said, I was a huge Metrostars fan back in the day and saw them break my heart an infinite amount of times. Clint Mathis was my favorite player. When they became the Red Bulls I slowly gave up on them until I stopped watching MLS altogether. Now I am an NYCFC fan and now I no longer care about the Red Bulls and it has nothing to do with Lampard or Villa (who was always a great player) or Pirlo but the fact that NYCFC is actually from New York City and I am a New Yorker. And the fact I'm a Yankee fan doesn't hurt either. That said I absolutely LOATHE Manchester City. The closest thing to a favorite Premier team I have is Chelsea and they suck. I think NYCFCs uniform looks too much like Man City and they need to change the order of the color scheme. Like use the dark blue as the primary color instead of that baby sky blue, it looks pathetic.

I hate the word soccer. I really need to stop using it. What a stupid word to begin with.
 
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RBNY were robbed in L.A. last night. Of course blowing another 2-0 lead late in the 2nd doesn't give you much room for excuses, but the Galaxy goalie got away with not one but two obvious fouls that should have lead to penalty kicks. Not sure what the ref's were looking at.
 
JanErixon20 said:
RBNY were robbed in L.A. last night. Of course blowing another 2-0 lead late in the 2nd doesn't give you much room for excuses, but the Galaxy goalie got away with not one but two obvious fouls that should have lead to penalty kicks. Not sure what the ref's were looking at.
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They missed those 2 for RB and another for LA. I was left absolutely speechless.
 
srsly989 said:
They missed those 2 for RB and another for LA. I was left absolutely speechless.
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I didn't watch the whole game, so I can't comment on the one they missed on L.A., don't recall seeing it. But the Galaxy goalie were obvious calls. :rant:
 
Arsenal go from Giroud for Higuain to Jonny ****ing Evans

Kill me

also the ICC game between Bayern and Real was wonderful. Atmosphere was A+ and the game was frantic and fun
 
Palace picking up where they left off last season in the EPL. There lineup is unsettled, hopefully that gets fixed soon. Off to Spurs this weekend, good luck boys.

Watched all the games this weekend. United looked good. City not so much. Liverpool/Arsenal....both had times where they looked bad and good. Hull beating LC was nutty. All in all, it's nice waking up on the weekend to the EPL again.
 
I'm excited by the moves that United made this summer. Zlatan still looks 24 instead of 34, Bailly looks like a solid CB with room to improve, Mkhi will round into form, and they also got one of the best CM's in the world in Pogba who's only 23.

Yesterday's win was impressive, and that was even without Smalling, Pogba, and Mhki for 75 minutes. Let's just hope that Mourinho doesn't ruin it.
 
I Eat Crow said:
I'm excited by the moves that United made this summer. Zlatan still looks 24 instead of 34, Bailly looks like a solid CB with room to improve, Mkhi will round into form, and they also got one of the best CM's in the world in Pogba who's only 23.

Yesterday's win was impressive, and that was even without Smalling, Pogba, and Mhki for 75 minutes. Let's just hope that Mourinho doesn't ruin it.
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I'm really hoping Micky didn't start because he's not up to game speed or something. Because if Mourinho is looking at the squad and thinking Rooney/Mata over Micky - that's not a good start to the season.

Mata and Rooney together is especially bad. Zlatan drifts back, Rooney drifts back, Mata drifts inward, and it's a MF clusterf.
 
East Coast Bias said:
I'm really hoping Micky didn't start because he's not up to game speed or something. Because if Mourinho is looking at the squad and thinking Rooney/Mata over Micky - that's not a good start to the season.

Mata and Rooney together is especially bad. Zlatan drifts back, Rooney drifts back, Mata drifts inward, and it's a MF clusterf.
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I think Mourinho is going to ease Mkhi into the English game rather than throw him into the pool. It's a lot more physical and rough than the Bundesliga. Still, when everyone is healthy and fit, I'd like to see this lineup:

Zlatan
Martial. Mhki
Herrera/Memphis


Rooney. Pogba

Shaw. Bailey. Smelling. Valencia/Darmian

De Gea



There is no clear cut player that plays the 10 role. Zlatan can drift back into the 10 role and Rashford or Martial can be used as the striker. Mhki can play the 10 role quite well, but is most effective on either wing. I'm shocked that Mata hasn't been sold, but he's a 10 or a winger as well.

Rooney at this stage of his career is a midfielder. Him and Pogba in the holding roles would be one of the strongest midfields in the world. If Rooney is opted as the 10, Schniederlin or Herrera should be the other holding. Fellaini should be sold. Memphis should be loaned out if he's not going to play.
 
Just a crazy thought, and I know it won't ever happen, but has their ever been any talk of breaking the EPL up into divisions? It's very American, so I'm sure it will never go over, but it just seems, despite what LCFC did last season, we won't see that again. I mean, it was 5000 to 1. You can have a super division with all the big clubs, and a second division with the rest of the best. Winners of each division play each other in a championship game. The winner plus the next 3 point getters get to go to the Champions league. You can still have relegation/promotion, but that could get tricky. I guess you can have it divisional and league to league.

For example, for this year:

Division One:
Man U
City
Arsenal
Liverpool
Chelsea
Spurs
West Ham
Southampton
Leister City
Everton

Division Two:
Crystal Palace
Swansea
Hull City
West Brom
Bournemouth
Watford
Burnley
Sunderland
Middlesborough
Stoke

Just an idea, not sure if it's feasible but was bored at work and got to thinking. :)
 
JanErixon20 said:
Just a crazy thought, and I know it won't ever happen, but has their ever been any talk of breaking the EPL up into divisions? It's very American, so I'm sure it will never go over, but it just seems, despite what LCFC did last season, we won't see that again. I mean, it was 5000 to 1. You can have a super division with all the big clubs, and a second division with the rest of the best. Winners of each division play each other in a championship game. The winner plus the next 3 point getters get to go to the Champions league. You can still have relegation/promotion, but that could get tricky. I guess you can have it divisional and league to league.

For example, for this year:

Division One:
Man U
City
Arsenal
Liverpool
Chelsea
Spurs
West Ham
Southampton
Leister City
Everton

Division Two:
Crystal Palace
Swansea
Hull City
West Brom
Bournemouth
Watford
Burnley
Sunderland
Middlesborough
Stoke

Just an idea, not sure if it's feasible but was bored at work and got to thinking. :)
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That would be a bit like having the Calder Cup winner play in the Stanley Cup final, wouldn't it?

Plus that could easily mean, that at least three teams from the weaker division make it to the Champions League, while the good teams don't. That's quite the opposite of what the league would want.
 
jniklast said:
That would be a bit like having the Calder Cup winner play in the Stanley Cup final, wouldn't it?

Plus that could easily mean, that at least three teams from the weaker division make it to the Champions League, while the good teams don't. That's quite the opposite of what the league would want.
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Well some say the AHL is the 2nd best league in the world. :) And for one game, anything is possible.

You can relegate based on points, regardless of division. So if the 2nd division is playing each other more, they have the chance for more wins, more points etc..

As the league is now, you have more then half the teams with no chance to win it, basically. And if teams like Watford or Palace are playing for a spot in a championship game instead of setting their sites on 10th, might make them a little more competitive. Also might make for competitive games later in the season. You won't have teams dumping EPL games in favor of an FA Cup run, which isn't what it use to be.

Like I said, just playing around. I'm just glad the EPL is back. Best time of year....EPL back, NHL and NFL just around the corner.
 
I Eat Crow said:
I think Mourinho is going to ease Mkhi into the English game rather than throw him into the pool. It's a lot more physical and rough than the Bundesliga. Still, when everyone is healthy and fit, I'd like to see this lineup:

Zlatan
Martial. Mhki
Herrera/Memphis


Rooney. Pogba

Shaw. Bailey. Smelling. Valencia/Darmian

De Gea



There is no clear cut player that plays the 10 role. Zlatan can drift back into the 10 role and Rashford or Martial can be used as the striker. Mhki can play the 10 role quite well, but is most effective on either wing. I'm shocked that Mata hasn't been sold, but he's a 10 or a winger as well.

Rooney at this stage of his career is a midfielder. Him and Pogba in the holding roles would be one of the strongest midfields in the world. If Rooney is opted as the 10, Schniederlin or Herrera should be the other holding. Fellaini should be sold. Memphis should be loaned out if he's not going to play.
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Rooney is nowhere near the best 11 for me. Defintely not in MF. He gives the ball away way too much. It's going to be a difficult decision to drop him, but I think it has to eventually happen. There isn't a position on the field he's the most effective option in.

I would go

Martial Ibra Miki

Pogba
Schneiderlein-Carrick/Fellani

Shaw-Bailey-Smalling-Valencia
 
I don't know much about Christian Benteke, but from what I read about him, he was a bad fit for Liverpool as far as the style they play compared to the way he plays. To the contrary, Palace plays an offensive style more suited to him.

Might be one of those guys who just was a bad fit and needs a change of scenery. Palace want him there. He wants to play for Palace. I think a deal will get done. Unless WBA scoops him up first.
 

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EXCL: #CPFC reach agreement with #LFC to sign Benteke. £27m + addons that could take it above £30m. Travelling to London for medical & terms

Now if the Rangers can get Vesey signed tomorrow, it'll make for a good weekend.
 
failure said:
How do you guys watch the premier league games? They're like barely ever on TV? Is there a subscription-based app or whatever?
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They carry the games usually on NBCSN or one of the other NBC channels live on Saturday and Sunday mornings. No games this weekend though because of the international break.
 
Groot said:
They carry the games usually on NBCSN or one of the other NBC channels live on Saturday and Sunday mornings. No games this weekend though because of the international break.
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Yeah I usually watch the games then but I was kinda hoping to watch them live somehow. Especially Arsenal.
 
failure said:
How do you guys watch the premier league games? They're like barely ever on TV? Is there a subscription-based app or whatever?
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If you have NBC Sports in your cable package you can use the app. It has every EPL game live.

I use the app thru Apple TV if I need to.

Depending on your cable provider, they have EPL overflow channels as well.

Try livesoccertv dot com to check listings. Shows every soccer game and what tv channel it's on.
 
BroadwayStorm said:
I'm a Real Madrid fan. As bad as it gets.
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It must be really hard following a team that's won a major trophy 9 of the last 10 seasons, including winning the double and Champions League twice.

BroadwayStorm said:
The closest thing to a favorite Premier team I have is Chelsea and they suck.
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A team that's won 15 trophies in the last 10 years including the PL 4 times and the Champions League "sucks" .... Also this year they're 3-0-0 and easily one of the 4 best teams in the PL, with no European football to play so they'll likely remain towards the top.
 
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