Speculation: Article: Should and will the Canucks trade Tanev?

Nucklehead Supreme

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The past can be an indication of the future and you guys have a history of making bad moves since JB took over

Oh he has made some bad and some questionable moves yes, but what foundational player has he traded? Other than Kesler which was not Benning's fault at all. So really no indication from the past that this would occur.

My point was that none of the moves have been as earth shattering as people seem to think.
 

The Extrapolater

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Sounds like a trial balloon. Tanev's NTC starts in 2017. Just floating the idea, see who responds, what offers might be made.
 

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We need to keep tanev unless its a severe overpayment. We should be trying to getting Edler to waive to bring in some scoring help for the 2nd line.

Sbisa could be moved but wont garner the best return.
 

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Oh he has made some bad and some questionable moves yes, but what foundational player has he traded? Other than Kesler which was not Benning's fault at all. So really no indication from the past that this would occur.

My point was that none of the moves have been as earth shattering as people seem to think.


What have you said that offers any evidence that he wouldn't move another one ? You can't say he won't just because he has only done it once. If he thinks it would help the team he'll do it.

We have seen him bleed assets and Tanev amongst others in the organization is a valuable asset like McCann and the 33rd were. Of course Tanev is more valuable, but he could still go if Benning gets the "right" offer.
 

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What have you said that offers any evidence that he wouldn't move another one ? You can't say he won't just because he has only done it once. If he thinks it would help the team he'll do it.

We have seen him bleed assets and Tanev amongst others in the organization is a valuable asset like McCann and the 33rd were. Of course Tanev is more valuable, but he could still go if Benning gets the "right" offer.

McCann- A player that at best could be a 2nd liner and at worst a 4th liner and redundant in our organization.

33rd- 2nd round picks have a 13% chance of even being an NHL regular.

We traded those to get Gudbranson, who at 23 is already a top 4 Dman. Given what RHD top 4 dmen cost, I don't see that as some heinous amount.
 

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I get the feeling that Botchford=Staples (laughable Edmontonian journalist) in that they both feel the need to make ridiculous headlines during the summer.

Although, as an Oilers fan, I would love to see the trade happen, I find it to make zero sense to the Canucks. From my perspective, bonafide NHL defencemen should be stockpiled, not traded. Sure, the Canucks don't have a ton of great offensive prospects right now (feel free to dispute that claim), but I think getting rid of such a reliable player on the back end would be bad for business.

Take Connor's word for it, Tanev was a great player at the World Championships and should not be moved.

To summarize: the Canucks shouldn't trade him, but as an Oilers fan I would be happy if they did.
 

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I get the feeling that Botchford=Staples (laughable Edmontonian journalist) in that they both feel the need to make ridiculous headlines during the summer.

Although, as an Oilers fan, I would love to see the trade happen, I find it to make zero sense to the Canucks. From my perspective, bonafide NHL defencemen should be stockpiled, not traded. Sure, the Canucks don't have a ton of great offensive prospects right now (feel free to dispute that claim), but I think getting rid of such a reliable player on the back end would be bad for business.

Take Connor's word for it, Tanev was a great player at the World Championships and should not be moved.

To summarize: the Canucks shouldn't trade him, but as an Oilers fan I would be happy if they did.

Canuck's depth on d is as follows right now:

Edler/Tanev
Hutton/Gudbranson
Scbisa/Tryamkin
Larsen

Pedan/Biega are their 1st call ups and both require waivers. Pedan has a shot at being a 3rd pairing Dman, but he's nearing the end of the line in terms of being a prospect. It's go time for him.

In terms of legit prospects in the system, based on age:

Subban - 5'9 offensive Dman, RHD
Stecher - sub 6' Dman, RHD
Brisebois - potential to be a 2nd pairing Dman.
Juolevi - potential to be a 1st pairing Dman.

There is no replacement for Tanev on the right side, who can play big minutes. Can't expect either of Subban or Stecher to be playing 23 plus minutes a game even in their prime. Don't have the game for it.

Both Brisebois and Juolevi are LHD.

Given what they gave up to get a RHD, would make little sense for the Canucks to even consider moving Tanev. Edler, OTOH, should be the guy they consider moving, if they ever asked him if he has a list of teams he would waive his NTC to go to.

They need to do a NYR/OTT deal where they can save 5 plus years in age for the players involved.

Edler is at the age, along with Hansen, where they will be on the decline when the new young players are ready to take over. So, moving them now makes more sense.
 

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McCann- A player that at best could be a 2nd liner and at worst a 4th liner and redundant in our organization.

33rd- 2nd round picks have a 13% chance of even being an NHL regular.

We traded those to get Gudbranson, who at 23 is already a top 4 Dman. Given what RHD top 4 dmen cost, I don't see that as some heinous amount.

Alright fair enough that's your viewpoint and I'll leave it at that.

What about the other part of what I said though? Is it fair for me to say just because he hasn't traded another foundational players he still could just like I can look at your viewpoint and agree with it if I wanted to.
 

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Really? Once again besides Kesler, what foundational player(s) has Benning traded away? Can you name one other?

That kind of indicates otherwise bud.

And Kesler forced the trade on them.

Tanev loves Vancouver and is the opposite of a locker-room cancer.

He's one of the most valuable / unmovable assets that Vancouver has, and the whole idea / article is a joke. Botch just looking for hits.
 

Tryamkin

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No they shouldn't but it's the Canucks so they probably will

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notsocommonsense

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I disagree with Tanev being our best, how about Edler?

I don't understand how anyone who has watched edler play the last couple of years can even think he is a "good" defenceman. . . He's a turnover machine. . And I don't mean little errant passes, the guy has brain farts regularly where he'll make tape to tape passes in his own end to the opposition without a teammate in sight. . It's mind boggling . . Everyone is all over pizza man for the same thing but edler invented it

Then there's his offense. . . Which gets less productive with every year despite playing the pp w the sedins

And he's not exactly an ironman, missing a lot of games these last 5 years

I feel like van fans still think it's 5 years ago and elder is a #1. . . Or like its 7 years ago and we're all drooling over his "potential". . On a good team he might be a #3 at best

Gawd, I hate watching him play

Thanks, I feel better now

And yes, Tanev is better, wayyyyyyyyyyy better. . . It's not even close
 

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I don't understand how anyone who has watched edler play the last couple of years can even think he is a "good" defenceman. . . He's a turnover machine. . And I don't mean little errant passes, the guy has brain farts regularly where he'll make tape to tape passes in his own end to the opposition without a teammate in sight. . It's mind boggling . . Everyone is all over pizza man for the same thing but edler invented it

Then there's his offense. . . Which gets less productive with every year despite playing the pp w the sedins

And he's not exactly an ironman, missing a lot of games these last 5 years

I feel like van fans still think it's 5 years ago and elder is a #1. . . Or like its 7 years ago and we're all drooling over his "potential". . On a good team he might be a #3 at best

Gawd, I hate watching him play

Thanks, I feel better now

And yes, Tanev is better, wayyyyyyyyyyy better. . . It's not even close

Have YOU watched Edler play recently?

He's not the defensive liability he was when he was putting up 40+ points a season racking up tons of secondary assists on the PP with the Sedins.

His even strength scoring is still very close to the same pace, and he's shored up his defensive game.

Edler is an excellent three-zone D who still paces 30-35 points/season and would be top-pairing on many teams.
 

notsocommonsense

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Have YOU watched Edler play recently?

He's miles better than he was five years ago, or when he was racking up tons of secondary assists on the PP from the Sedins.

His even strength scoring is still very close to the same pace, and he's shored up his defensive game.

Edler is an excellent three-zone D, and a top-pairing on many teams.

Meh, I didn't think my post would be popular w van fans, I know how most feel about him

I wish we had moved him before the NTC kicked in, he frightens me every time he has the puck in his own zone

I'll agree he would be a #2 on a lot of teams, just not top ones

Agree to disagree w the rest
 

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