Player Discussion Artemi Panarin

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DuneGoon84

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So I heard this guy was a superstar? Haven't noticed him all series. Panthers play up on our guys, we back off theirs. BRILLIANT stragey by us. Where have I seen this before?
 

Brutananadilewski

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I ate a plate of it during the regular season, but now?


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SA16

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Since everyone is so obsessed this series with shot attempts how come nobody is mentioning that with Panarin on the ice at 5v5 yesterday the Rangers had 27 shot attempts, only allowed, 5, and had 72.4% of the xG? I thought he played a very good game yesterday.

Oh, right, cause it only matters if it fits the preconceived narrative.
 

Nickmo82

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Since everyone is so obsessed this series with shot attempts how come nobody is mentioning that with Panarin on the ice at 5v5 yesterday the Rangers had 27 shot attempts, only allowed, 5, and had 72.4% of the xG? I thought he played a very good game yesterday.

Oh, right, cause it only matters if it fits the preconceived narrative.
That'd be fine if it was game 5 of the regular season and we'd all like him to get going... but circumstances are a little different. He's THE offensive leader on the team. He put up 120 in the regular season and has been lacklustre in the playoffs (again).

How far can we expect to go when we're leaning on 2nd and 3rd tier guys when our top guys are consistently absent from the scoresheet?
 
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Megustaelhockey

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Marner will not solve the problem. We need a star forward with a track record of performing in tight playoff games.
Those have to be home grown. Trying to stock up on those after the fact is part of why we weren't in any way relevant from 1997 to 2006.
 

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If he was wearing a Roslovic jersey you'd be saying "damn, we got the bad version of Roslovic tonight".
 

EdJovanovski

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Since everyone is so obsessed this series with shot attempts how come nobody is mentioning that with Panarin on the ice at 5v5 yesterday the Rangers had 27 shot attempts, only allowed, 5, and had 72.4% of the xG? I thought he played a very good game yesterday.

Oh, right, cause it only matters if it fits the preconceived narrative.
I’m in a discord server with a bunch of people from HF, only a couple other HFNYR guys there and everyone there thinks Panarin has been our best player the past couple games. Sportsnet broadcast was saying so too. The analytics say so as well. Panarin has been good, Zibanejad has been awful and his body language and everything is too. Snapping his head back and stopped skating for a call while we had an empty net, and got shoved behind our net and went down like a tower of cards. Pathetic display, Panarin showed fight right til the very end getting into a scrum after the game ended
 

bleedblue94

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Since everyone is so obsessed this series with shot attempts how come nobody is mentioning that with Panarin on the ice at 5v5 yesterday the Rangers had 27 shot attempts, only allowed, 5, and had 72.4% of the xG? I thought he played a very good game yesterday.

Oh, right, cause it only matters if it fits the preconceived narrative.
Bc laffy and trocheck

That'd be fine if it was game 5 of the regular season and we'd all like him to get going... but circumstances are a little different. He's THE offensive leader on the team. He put up 120 in the regular season and has been lacklustre in the playoffs (again).

How far can we expect to go when we're leaning on 2nd and 3rd tier guys when our top guys are consistently absent from the scoresheet?
And to further your point, most of the time when you get deep into playoff series the top players on each team tend to cancel each other out and it turns into a series of how the mid and bottom tier players Excel. The issue is that our top-tier players are not producing at all and our mid-tier guys are having to match and beat Florida's top tier
 

bleedblue94

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I’m in a discord server with a bunch of people from HF, only a couple other HFNYR guys there and everyone there thinks Panarin has been our best player the past couple games. Sportsnet broadcast was saying so too. The analytics say so as well. Panarin has been good, Zibanejad has been awful and his body language and everything is too. Snapping his head back and stopped skating for a call while we had an empty net, and got shoved behind our net and went down like a tower of cards. Pathetic display, Panarin showed fight right til the very end getting into a scrum after the game ended
Laffy and trocheck have been by far the best forwards that we've had

And I am absolutely willing to eat Crow on Vinny, he has exceeded everything I could have ever hoped from him and that signing, but unfortunately again all my complaints about bread are coming back when the games get tight.
 

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I’m in a discord server with a bunch of people from HF, only a couple other HFNYR guys there and everyone there thinks Panarin has been our best player the past couple games. Sportsnet broadcast was saying so too. The analytics say so as well. Panarin has been good, Zibanejad has been awful and his body language and everything is too. Snapping his head back and stopped skating for a call while we had an empty net, and got shoved behind our net and went down like a tower of cards. Pathetic display, Panarin showed fight right til the very end getting into a scrum after the game ended

He's been the 3rd best player on his own line in those games and for this entire run.

He was awful for the last 2 periods yesterday after the 1st where he at least had jump. Game 4 wasn't that bad, but its not enough from mr. 11.6.

He isn't even drawing the tough matchups.
 
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Brutananadilewski

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I’m in a discord server with a bunch of people from HF, only a couple other HFNYR guys there and everyone there thinks Panarin has been our best player the past couple games. Sportsnet broadcast was saying so too. The analytics say so as well. Panarin has been good, Zibanejad has been awful and his body language and everything is too. Snapping his head back and stopped skating for a call while we had an empty net, and got shoved behind our net and went down like a tower of cards. Pathetic display, Panarin showed fight right til the very end getting into a scrum after the game ended

Sorry.

Coulda, woulda, shoulda only gets you so far.

When he accelerates with the puck, he does one of two things: skate to the side and wait for his linemates to set-up which results on the D to converge on him, or he skates to the side and takes a weak wrister.

I give Zibs more hell but he at least hit the post, or made Bob work for the save.
 

bleedblue94

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I'd have Panarin right with them and the fact the teams are trying to smother him opens up space for Laffy & Trocheck as well
I don't see it happening that way .
Maybe you're right, but maybe the answer is to move bread off that line and put somebody else there. By doing that they would force the Panthers to figure out how to match up. Put bread with wemberg and cuylle And then there's actually three lines that need to be considered to be matched up against. It's not like we can do anything even strength that is going to cause us issues, for the most part the team has been getting caved in at even strength.
 
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Peltz

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Since everyone is so obsessed this series with shot attempts how come nobody is mentioning that with Panarin on the ice at 5v5 yesterday the Rangers had 27 shot attempts, only allowed, 5, and had 72.4% of the xG? I thought he played a very good game yesterday.

Oh, right, cause it only matters if it fits the preconceived narrative.
This is playoffs. Wins and losses are what matter. Results are what matter. Not underlying analytics.

He's not playing like a f***ing 11.6 million dollar player in these playoffs. Not even remotely close. The results speak for themselves.
 

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