Player Discussion Artem Zub (D) Part 2 [Extended 4 years @ $4.6M]

[dumbdick]

Brann would be useful right now.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Disagreed, Dorion should absolutely be blamed for giving out 1-way contracts to non-NHL defencemen that NO other team has shown willingness to take. Buy-out was possible, but none of the players you mentioned are worth such buyout. You still need to fill the roster with cap minus the buyout hit, not a pleasant sight. Like I said, the 3rd pairing situation sucks, but Staios did address other more pressing and prioritized needs (starter, top-4 D, veteran forwards).

I am not sure why Staios was quick to give Sogaard a 1-way next year though. That's a move horribly aging already.

Zub please come back healthy and strong and soon!

The Hamonic signing could have been fixed rather easily, but is largely irrelevant to the discussion about defensive depth.

The bigger issue than not buying him out was not surrounding him with additional depth so if he continued to suck he could be stapled to the bench.

I've also made the argument that trading Joseph to fit in Perron's cap hit, at the cost of a million in cap space, was a mistake.

It appears we don't want to play with a full roster and go with 2 spares on D because we'd be at risk of incurring a bonus overage penalty, like we did last year playing right up against the cap. Wouldn't be an issue if we kept Joseph and let Perron sign elsewhere.

Not the end of the world, but self-imposed errors that could cost us somewhat.

 

[Icelevel]

Just as zub was looking better than ever.
A prick comes along and derails his progress. Hopefully he gets back there and isn’t affected too much.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

I don't like those practice pairings at all. Move Jensen up to play with Sandy and have JBD with Chabot.

 

[Loach]

The Hamonic signing could have been fixed rather easily, but is largely irrelevant to the discussion about defensive depth.

The bigger issue than not buying him out was not surrounding him with additional depth so if he continued to suck he could be stapled to the bench.

I've also made the argument that trading Joseph to fit in Perron's cap hit, at the cost of a million in cap space, was a mistake.

It appears we don't want to play with a full roster and go with 2 spares on D because we'd be at risk of incurring a bonus overage penalty, like we did last year playing right up against the cap. Wouldn't be an issue if we kept Joseph and let Perron sign elsewhere.

Not the end of the world, but self-imposed errors that could cost us somewhat.

Lots going on with the team. Roster needed to be reshaped. Not much cap space. No prospects, to graduate to the NHL or be used as trade capital. Same with draft picks to be used as trade capital. This wasn't going to be fixed in one offseason. I bet next year is the target....second round of playoffs....it's the year they forfite the 1rst round pick. These guys are playing the long game, no more Mickey Mouse bullshit.

 

[Sun God Nika]

I don't like those practice pairings at all. Move Jensen up to play with Sandy and have JBD with Chabot.

I don’t mind it , Chabot is a liability and not fair to expect JBD to cover for him

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Brann would be useful right now.

You’re apparently not supposed to care who your 6-7 d are. Because they’ll never play anywhere other than 6 or 7 D.

“This team has bigger problems than 6-7 d”
“If you’re worried about a 6 or 7th d, that’s on you”

 

[dumbdick]

Next year we should honestly just leave cap and roster space open for both a forward and a defence waiver claim.

There are players that pass through that are better than what we're icing at the bottom of our roster.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

no zub at practice

pairings are
Sanderson-Hamonic
Chabot-Jensen
Kleven-JBD

...yikes

 

[BondraTime]

Brann would be useful right now.

Can grab him for nothing if we want him. Vancouver would be thrilled to get a 1 way out of the AHL.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

Can grab him for nothing if we want him. Vancouver would be thrilled to get a 1 way out of the AHL.

From your mouth to Staios' ears.

 

[TheNewEra]

I still don't understand why we didn't get kylington if we wanted to move on from branny

 

[BondraTime]

I still don't understand why we didn't get kylington if we wanted to move on from branny

Kylington isn’t a full time guy now either, he’d also be an easy guy to trade for.

Neither Brann or Kylington cracked the Avs lineup out the gate, they went with Ludvig, Malinski and De Haan. 4 of those guys will be in and out.

Not sure either guy is someone we’d like to have on the roster, but seeing Hamoinc on the ice is painful.

 

[dumbdick]

We should trade florida for Matt Kiersted and complete the entire UND Voltron Mech.

 

[TheNewEra]

Kylington isn’t a full time guy now either, he’d also be an easy guy to trade for.

Neither Brann or Kylington cracked the Avs lineup out the gate, they went with Ludvig, Malinski and De Haan. 4 of those guys will be in and out.

Not sure either guy is someone we’d like to have on the roster, but seeing Hamoinc on the ice is painful.

Thats fair, i guess the overall point is how did we not get more depth

most of us knew what we had with hamonic, jbd is jbd. After that is a whole lot of question marks

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Thats fair, i guess the overall point is how did we not get more depth

most of us knew what we had with hamonic, jbd is jbd. After that is a whole lot of question marks

at what point is a question mark better than when you know the answer?

 

[TheNewEra]

at what point is a question mark better than when you know the answer?

now if the answer is hamonic lol