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Lampard sucks lol there plenty of better options
I think this is harsh, he doesn't suck. He just jumped too quickly from a lower division team to a team with trophy expectations. I agree there are better options for Arsenal to look at though, but Lampard is a decent manager that should be with a club more suited to his current ability level.
 
Lampard would probably be interested in West Ham job when that comes available.

For next season, Patrick Vieira could be an option for Arsenal, if Arteta can't improve. Vieira would be interested even if Arsenal are out of CL and can't attract the very top managers.
 
Lampard would probably be interested in West Ham job when that comes available.

For next season, Patrick Vieira could be an option for Arsenal, if Arteta can't improve. Vieira would be interested even if Arsenal are out of CL and can't attract the very top managers.
Lampard would never go back to West Ham. He still cries about how he was heckled when he was there in interviews to this day.
 
Or if they're REALLY smart about going for an exciting up and coming manager (rather than an unproven assistant), go for Franck Haize. Can't do much better than a 50 year old magician who is redefining how pressing and systems work.
His 3-4-1-2 is amazing, and he took a promoted side into a 7th and now 6th ranked L1 team. He has something like 3 or 4 above average players. And that's generous.
Named among the best L1 coached in his first full year as a coach.
 
I'm just going to state the ones I think we can easily get.

Erik Ten Hag is a good, realistic option. Gasperini would be great. I would also not mind Jesse March. I do think we could tempt Luis Enrique too. Blanc is almost ideal. I like Fonseca and Jardim too. Peter Bosz is good. De Zerbi and Potter would be easy to get and I like some of their ideas, but both are too insistent on positional play.

Potter is obviously linked with many top jobs but for now I think he is a bit overrated. People are a bit too obsessed with organised football. Potter has not been able to translate his ideas to create a high scoring team or even a particularly good league finish. Some of that isn't his fault but there is cause for concern. There isn't enough positional interchange or unpredictability in the final third in Potters Brighton team. But I wouldn't mind sacking Arteta for him.

In the Premier League, I also wouldn't mind giving chances to Hassenhuttl or Rodgers over our guy, although both of them have flaws. At least short term I would take them for sure. Plenty of good managers out there. And Vieira has shown encouraging signs so far at Pala ce, playing entertaining football.

Gasperini or Ten Hag would be the preferred choice that I think we can easily tempt for now. Enrique and Mancini are good realistic candidates too but will be harder to tempt.
 
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If Guardiola leaves anytime soon, I think City would be interested in Gasperini for a few years.
Gasperini is very very different from Guardiola stylistically. I think City are more intrested in positional play coaches considering Txiki is their director. Ten Hag could be brought in, he has lots of elements in his coaching that remind me of Guardiola, even though his teams are a lot more fluid and a bit less structured in possession. They are likely to consider Ten Hag, but unlikely to go for Gasperini. I’m not sure who I think is the best out of those two.
 
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To those who want to see Arteta sacked, who would you replace him with? No one is available right now. Frank Lampard?

I mean I've wanted Blanc since it was Wenger we were replacing. Tbh at this point maybe he's been out of the game too long but I don't see any fewer viable coaches available right now than there has been at any point over the past year. Allegri's about to come back on the market too :laugh:

As for Auba, the whole "sick mother" thing smacks of PR spin. Think what you want but that's a sob story if I ever heard one. It doesn't mean Arteta is right, but let's not be completely naive
 
I mean I've wanted Blanc since it was Wenger we were replacing. Tbh at this point maybe he's been out of the game too long but I don't see any fewer viable coaches available right now than there has been at any point over the past year. Allegri's about to come back on the market too :laugh:

The options will be better in the off-season though. Unless there is a complete collapse I don’t think during Arteta at this point will solve anything.
 
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Gasperini is very very different from Guardiola stylistically. I think City are more intrested in positional play coaches considering Txiki is their director. Ten Hag could be brought in, he has lots of elements in his coaching that remind me of Guardiola, even though his teams are a lot more fluid and a bit less structured in possession. They are likely to consider Ten Hag, but unlikely to go for Gasperini. I’m not sure who I think is the best out of those two.

I don't think they are fixated on one spefific style and might actually prefer something different from Guardiola to make a clear break from him. And it would be difficult for any manager to follow Guardiola and not do worse. That wouldn't be so much of an issue for Gasperinin because of his age. Anyway that depends when Guardiola leaves.
 
Or if they're REALLY smart about going for an exciting up and coming manager (rather than an unproven assistant), go for Franck Haize.
I don't know much about Haize, but I like this train of thought. Unfortunately, it involves creative thinking and a broader look at managers... Don't think the Arsenal board has this in them.
 
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I don't think they are fixated on one spefific style and might actually prefer something different from Guardiola to make a clear break from him. And it would be difficult for any manager to follow Guardiola and not do worse. That wouldn't be so much of an issue for Gasperinin because of his age. Anyway that depends when Guardiola leaves.
They play incredibly structured positional play at every age level with their youth teams. It does seem like their sporting directors want to create an identifiable "City way of playing" and therefore will look to hire managers that play similarly to Pep when he eventually leaves.

On another note, I think playing Pep-like repetitive football with extremely rigid patterns of play is a horrendous way of developing young kids. Elite talent is built playing freely and creatively on the streets, on small sided pitches or in cages etc. 99% of the greatest players came up like that. You can then teach them positional play if you have to when they’re older. I wouldn’t even enjoy playing like this at their age. This will destroy the careers of so many of those players who become trained to just play this repetitive way over and over and can't adapt, not to mention those who will grow tired of it and lose interest in the sport. More than anything else, how is this fun?
 
I don't know much about Haize, but I like this train of thought. Unfortunately, it involves creative thinking and a broader look at managers... Don't think the Arsenal board has this in them.


Hiring relatively unknown French coach worked out pretty good last time but agreed that a hire like that today is probably unlikely. They went with an unproven coach in Arteta and when he is sacked they will most likely hire another bigger name regardless of whether he is any good or not.
 
The options will be better in the off-season though. Unless there is a complete collapse I don’t think during Arteta at this point will solve anything.

Yeah, you're not wrong, mostly I'm just jealous of other teams moving on and us still being stuck with the guy. Also, it's not a guarantee the options will be better, the good coaches might also get snapped up
 
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Yeah, you're not wrong, mostly I'm just jealous of other teams moving on and us still being stuck with the guy. Also, it's not a guarantee the options will be better, the good coaches might also get snapped up
No matter the option, any option would be an upgrade on Arteta. Even Steve Bruce.
 
Hiring relatively unknown French coach worked out pretty good last time but agreed that a hire like that today is probably unlikely. They went with an unproven coach in Arteta and when he is sacked they will most likely hire another bigger name regardless of whether he is any good or not.
I agree with you on what they'll do but I just want to stress that Haize has been head coach. With nothing but amazing success. Arteta was never head coach.
 
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Arsenal is currently playing against their opponent and Artetaball and still have reached the top 4!!! Unbelievable!!!

To those who want to see Arteta sacked, who would you replace him with? No one is available right now. Frank Lampard?
Blanc easily or one of the offensive German coaches.
 
Arteta isn't going anywhere. He's got the team in the Top 4 after today. Despite his critics and obvious failings as a manager, he's learning and the team is improving. If he finishes top 6 he keeps his job.
With the lack of a true striker and the issues in midfield and defence, it has to be considered a massive success if he gets Arsenal back in the Champions League. And if he does that while being a young, relatively inexperienced manager, the future looks bright.
 
Yeah but last seasons neither of them would even be top scorers in the swedish league. If that's on Arteta i don't know but clearly those two aren't scoring enough goals anymore.
 
The team plays much better with Lacazette. Let's hope he realizes the front 3 that started yesterday is who should be the first choice in those positions moving forward.

Lacazette was named captain. Desperation move to try to get him to stay? Despite being the better player I don't think it's wise to re-sign him unless you can find a taker for Auba.

Road matches against Leeds who are in freefall and Norwich and a home game against Wolves to finish the 2021 league schedule. Would be really nice to get all 9 points there before playing City and Spurs back to back to start 2022.
 

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