Arrest over Johnson death / released within 24 hours, investigation remains open

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Killing a man was the accidental part. I don't believe kicking his leg out was an accident.

So, when you kick your leg out and someone dies accidentally from that, that''s manslaughter. Seems like an okay arrest to me.
 

Siludin

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Assuming the UK police have substantially better footage than the grainy stuff we got.
People were talking about seeing a "kick" when he was flying through the air, but nobody wanted to stand behind the sentiment when people began to pile on the other side.
There may have also been things happening on the ice that we didn't see (words exchanged, retribution promised, etc).
If there is enough to charge someone usually it's more compelling than "person died - let's find someone to blame"
 

Czechboy

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Not proud to admit this but I did look at the video.

He was being reckless to my eye.

However, surprised this is goign to court. Just an awful situation all around. Not sure if it's the right call or not. Not sure what the victim's family is thinking either.
 

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I haven't, and won't, watch it the clip. I'd heard the other player was perhaps somewhat careless, but that it was a completely accidental play. To charge this player with manslaughter would be akin Chris Therien having been charged if the slap shot he took that struck Trent McCleary in the throat had killed him (granted it would have had Dr. Mulder not been so proactive and performed the tracheostomy in the tunnel to the locker room). This seems like an overreach to me.
 

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How his leg came up did look a bit unnatural.. but it'd be pretty incredible if it was planned.

I guess the important part here is if there's people who can testify or phone records or something that show a motive. If not, I have a hard time seeing this being deemed as anything more than an accident at the end of the day.

Edit: motive doesn’t seem to matter in involuntary manslaughter
 
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Saw this comment on Reddit regarding UK laws regarding manslaughter:

The breach of duty must be so bad as to be gross, i.e. criminal. This was defined in Adomako [1994] 3 All ER 79 as follows: having regard to the risk of death involved, was the conduct of the defendant so bad in all the circumstances as to amount to a criminal act or omission? The prosecution must prove the following two elements:

a) that the circumstances were such that a reasonably prudent person in the defendant's position would have foreseen a serious and obvious risk of death arising from the defendant's act or omission;

b) that the breach of duty was, in all the circumstances, so reprehensible and fell so far below the standards to be expected of a person in the defendant's position with his qualifications, experience and responsibilities that it amounted to a crime.

The only argument that can be made is that he intentionally kicked Johnson and that it violates one of these, but that seems like a huge stretch. I sincerely doubt he gets charged, but it’s a joke that it’s even getting to this point.
 

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Saw this comment on Reddit regarding UK laws regarding manslaughter:



The only argument that can be made is that he intentionally kicked Johnson and that it violates one of these, but that seems like a huge stretch. I sincerely doubt he gets charged, but it’s a joke that it’s even getting to this point.

He's being arrested weeks later after it happened, that's gotta mean charges have been filed...whether they stick or get dropped later on is another question i guess
 
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