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[Joeyjoejoe]

Lol we can't draft, develop high end offensive forwards.

Konecny passed on scores a beauty in his first game. Passed on for "character".

Mantha scores 4 goals while Lazar can barely get 4 goals a season.

We draft a high end forward but can't develop him into his potential, so we trade him for peanuts, and he comes back and puts up 4 points in our home debut, coming off a 70+ point season, which would have been the first 70 point season by a forward that we had since Spezza.

Trade another guy who puts up a hat trick and reaches 30+ goals for the first time last season for a guy that is basically our 13th forward.

 

[Wallet Inspector]

Trade another guy who puts up a hat trick and reaches 30+ goals for the first time last season for a guy that is basically our 13th forward.

Dorion really should have just traded Hoffman before the GF controversy broke out.

Some might call it underhanded, but it's not like Hoffman's playing ability is affected by it, so it's BS we got such a bad return.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Dorion really should have just traded Hoffman before the GF controversy broke out.

Some might call it underhanded, but it's not like Hoffman's playing ability is affected by it, so it's BS we got such a bad return.

There was an option for a much better return as we saw what SJ got from Florida, it's just that our GM is so bad that it appears he actually looked at Boedker as someone that could contribute something of value.

Hoff's gonna break 40 this year and get a nice new contract somewhere other than Florida.

 

[BondraTime]

This Olofsson kid looks unbelievable for the Sabres. They look like a dangerous team.

 

[Slack]

This Olofsson kid looks unbelievable for the Sabres. They look like a dangerous team.

Yep and Johansson has turned out to be a great acquisition for them as well.

 

[BondraTime]

Heinola with his 1st. Kid looks fantastic, absolute steal by the Jets.

 

[Six Assets]

svechnikov is looking good.

 

[BondraTime]

svechnikov is looking good.

Yeah, he is a star in the making. 20 goals last year by himself in the bottom 6, now he's 19 and getting time with better players. Going to get 60+ points this year as a teenager

 

[Hale The Villain]

Lol we can't draft, develop high end offensive forwards.

Konecny passed on scores a beauty in his first game. Passed on for "character".

Mantha scores 4 goals while Lazar can barely get 4 goals a season.

We draft a high end forward but can't develop him into his potential, so we trade him for peanuts, and he comes back and puts up 4 points in our home debut, coming off a 70+ point season, which would have been the first 70 point season by a forward that we had since Spezza.

Trade another guy who puts up a hat trick and reaches 30+ goals for the first time last season for a guy that is basically our 13th forward.

Our scouting staff has legitimately been one of the best in the league the last 10YRs at finding and developing talent, but one clear weakness they have is their tendency to pass on players with more skill and upside for high character guys that play mature two-way games.

Lazar over Mantha
White over Boeser/Konecny
Bowers over Robertson/Tolvanen
Pinto over Kaliyev/Brink

Silfverberg and Formenton could conceivably be lumped in with them too, but at least with those guys they had an elite projectable skill (shot for Silf, speed for Formenton), whereas the other guys are your typical well-rounded player with no outstanding skills, which tends to very rarely result in high-end players (steals).

And before people jump on me, unlike the other guys White wasn't a bad pick, but I felt there were players with more upside left on the board that we passed on to make the "safe pick".

Zibanejad was the exception to the rule. Would have expected them to take the safer bet in Couturier, who up until recently would have been considered the better pick.

 

[Icelevel]

sharks - nashville starting up. should be a good one. first look at karl and duchene for me. go dooche!

 

[Very Stable Genius]

Keep the losing streak going SJ!

 

[L'Aveuglette]

Florida is truly a pathetic franchise. They went and got the best available coach and goalie to fix their biggest needs, and the stands are still emptier than most AHL games. On top of that, their defense is still apparently in shambles despite being backstopped by Bob. Ugh.

 

[Icelevel]

Keep the losing streak going SJ!

josi!
1-0

 

[JD1]

Our scouting staff has legitimately been one of the best in the league the last 10YRs at finding and developing talent, but one clear weakness they have is their tendency to pass on players with more skill and upside for high character guys that play mature two-way games.

Lazar over Mantha
White over Boeser/Konecny
Bowers over Robertson/Tolvanen
Pinto over Kaliyev/Brink

Silfverberg and Formenton could conceivably be lumped in with them too, but at least with those guys they had an elite projectable skill (shot for Silf, speed for Formenton), whereas the other guys are your typical well-rounded player with no outstanding skills, which tends to very rarely result in high-end players (steals).

And before people jump on me, unlike the other guys White wasn't a bad pick, but I felt there were players with more upside left on the board that we passed on to make the "safe pick".

Zibanejad was the exception to the rule. Would have expected them to take the safer bet in Couturier, who up until recently would have been considered the better pick.

I think the key point you made Hale is we've legitimately been one of the better teams at drafting over the past 10 years.

You look at at 15 year cycle which takes a player from 18 to 33. That's 105 picks if you acquire as many picks as you trade. If you have 10 guys on your roster at any time that you acquired by trade or signed as a free agent of any sort, then you need 13 guys out of 105 on a rolling basis on your team that you drafted and even that number seems high. That's what? 12% of your picks over 15 years on your roster at any time.

We see redrafts on HF all the time and 5 years or 10 years later they never go in the order they were originally picked. Never. If our standard is to go back and look at every bombed picked and then look at the best guy stats wise drafted after that guy....well it'll be forever miserable in here.

 

[Slack]

Jets absolutely trouncing the Pens right now.

edit: and their 5th goal gets called back for offside.

 

[Cat Herder]

Since we hold their 1st rounder this year we might as well have a thread to discuss their progress

So far this season they are 0-3-0

They are playing tonight and are losing 1-0 to Nashville in the 1st period

 

[Icelevel]

Jets absolutely trouncing the Pens right now.

edit: and their 5th goal gets called back for offside.

they need tierney

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Oh no you didn't!!

EDI: oh they did not let you

 

[Blarginator]

James Neal has 4 goals tonight.

 

[OmniSens]

James Neal

 

[Knave]

That could end up being more goals than Lucic all season. I just don't understand that trade by Calgary.

 

[OmniSens]

Neal had 7 goals all of last season in 63 games and already has 6 through 3...

 

[Blarginator]

I want to see the double hat-trick. Make it happen Edmonton. Just keep feeding him the puck for one-timers.

 

[Icelevel]

this is one good nashville team. similar to st louis? Will be fun to watch them in the post season