Around the NHL: We Really Like It, We Want Moar Playoffs!!!

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Hjalmarsson was great last year...

Not elite shutdown defender type good. He was even on the market reportedly.

Scotty Bowman said I believe that his game (or I think it was Jonathan Ericsson?) that it reminds him of Lidstrom.
 
The guy has had one great regular season, a Stanley cup run in which the team was all on fire, followed up with a mediocre 1/2 season and a decent run this year. This is still the first true test hes faced in the past two years and he looks average at best right now. You can hate Hank all you want, but its clear that Quick shouldnt be mentioned in the same sentence when it comes to goaltending. Hank has put up better numbers for far more years and has dragged his team to the playoffs kicking and screaming in most of those. You put Hank in net for the Kings last year do the results change? You put Quick in Net for the Rangers and he gets eaten alive in the Atlantic division.

Don't agree with this.

Quick won the Kings 2 playoff series vs. the Sharks and Blues, both series where they were often outchanced. The Kings aren't running in full cylinders like they were last year and they only managed to get past the Blues and Sharks, two contending teams, was mostly due to the play of Quick. Last year, Quick beat the top 3 teams in the West and a very offensively potent Devils team. He is absolutely in the upper-echelons of goaltenders IMO.
 
Don't agree with this.

Quick won the Kings 2 playoff series vs. the Sharks and Blues, both series where they were often outchanced. The Kings aren't running in full cylinders like they were last year and they only managed to get past the Blues and Sharks, two contending teams, was mostly due to the play of Quick. Last year, Quick beat the top 3 teams in the West and a very offensively potent Devils team. He is absolutely in the upper-echelons of goaltenders IMO.

I agree he's a Top 5 guy, but he's not on the tier of Hank, like most want to put him, is all Im saying. He has a lot more to prove in terms of consistency to belong there.
 
Phew, just finished watching a delayed Hawks/Kings. I do love it when the Hawks go into 'awesome' mode, so much fun to watch. Will be very interesting to see if LA can get back into it on home ice
 
The guy has had one great regular season, a Stanley cup run in which the team was all on fire, followed up with a mediocre 1/2 season and a decent run this year. This is still the first true test hes faced in the past two years and he looks average at best right now. You can hate Hank all you want, but its clear that Quick shouldnt be mentioned in the same sentence when it comes to goaltending. Hank has put up better numbers for far more years and has dragged his team to the playoffs kicking and screaming in most of those. You put Hank in net for the Kings last year do the results change? You put Quick in Net for the Rangers and he gets eaten alive in the Atlantic division.

If Im talking Goalies it starts with Hank and follows up with Rinne and Rask for the top 3.

Then you'd be in the minority pal.
We all love Hank but anybody who knows anything about hockey is gonna take Quick as the #1 goalie right now.
 
Then you'd be in the minority pal.
We all love Hank but anybody who knows anything about hockey is gonna take Quick as the #1 goalie right now.

Based on what exactly? His 1 stellar year of his career (A claim which many goalies can make, ie: Miller, Mason, Niemi etc etc)? His incredible positioning which is constantly causing him to have to make acrobatic saves, or perhaps his amazing rebound control? Quick is far from the #1 goalie in the world right now.

And before you say well you mustve never played, that's wrong as well. Played for 20 years, coached for 6. I think I have a good handle on the intricacies of the game.
 
Based on what exactly? His 1 stellar year of his career (A claim which many goalies can make, ie: Miller, Mason, Niemi etc etc)? His incredible positioning which is constantly causing him to have to make acrobatic saves, or perhaps his amazing rebound control? Quick is far from the #1 goalie in the world right now.

And before you say well you mustve never played, that's wrong as well. Played for 20 years, coached for 6. I think I have a good handle on the intricacies of the game.

Going to agree with this. In no way do I think lowly of Quick. The guy is incredible, but I'm not ready to dethrone Lundqvist because the guy has one and a half seasons of excellence under his belt.
 
Based on what exactly? His 1 stellar year of his career (A claim which many goalies can make, ie: Miller, Mason, Niemi etc etc)? His incredible positioning which is constantly causing him to have to make acrobatic saves, or perhaps his amazing rebound control? Quick is far from the #1 goalie in the world right now.

And before you say well you mustve never played, that's wrong as well. Played for 20 years, coached for 6. I think I have a good handle on the intricacies of the game.

Truth lies in perception; Quick is younger, way more athletic, more aggressive and he comes up bigger in the playoffs. Poll any of the "so called experts and I'll betcha none of them would take Hank over Quick despite the fact that the King's defense is head and shoulders better than the Rangers defense.

Hank is the #1 regular season goalie but his numbers have also benefited from the defensive system we've played here during his career.

Oh by the way, I've played and coached also and I've been following hockey and a big fan of the Rangers(as well as a season ticket holder from 1966-75 and 1998- present) since 1960.
 
Lunqvist may have benefited from the system in front of him, but he was a major reason why the system worked in the first place.

The "so called experts" already picked Hank when he won the Vezina last season and then nominated him again this year. Quick is a great goalie, but Lundqvist is better.
 
Truth lies in perception; Quick is younger, way more athletic, more aggressive and he comes up bigger in the playoffs. Poll any of the "so called experts and I'll betcha none of them would take Hank over Quick despite the fact that the King's defense is head and shoulders better than the Rangers defense.

Hank is the #1 regular season goalie but his numbers have also benefited from the defensive system we've played here during his career.

Oh by the way, I've played and coached also and I've been following hockey and a big fan of the Rangers(as well as a season ticket holder from 1966-75 and 1998- present) since 1960.

Dont take my last line personally. Its just a response to the argument that usually comes up "blah blah blah, you mustve never played the game". We will simply agree to disagree. I think Quick is a top 5 guy, and is someone I will root for to do well in the next Olympic games. I just dont sit him at the top of the goalie world currently. He has more to prove to be considered in that company, in my mind.
 
I have to admit after those first two games, I underestimated CHI. I didn't think it'd be a cake walk for the Kings, but I thought they'd quite comfortably take it in 6. Their offense has not been up to the task so far, and, unlike SJ and STL, Quick will nit be able to handle the Hawks on his own.

I hope CHI wins the cup. Conn Smythe going to Sharp, Keith or Hossa. I'm okay with this.
 
Likability is a big part of what makes me cheer for the Blackhawks. I just really like the players that make up that team. The high paced offensive onslaught they employ certainly does not hurt. The wheels are always turning on that team.
Gotta love what Crawford did last night grabbing Clifford. Made me smile.
 
I agree he's a Top 5 guy, but he's not on the tier of Hank, like most want to put him, is all Im saying. He has a lot more to prove in terms of consistency to belong there.

No goalie in the league is on Hank's level when consistency is taken into account.

It's a ****ing shame he gets underappreciated.
 
It was Luongo/Lundy, Miller/Lundy, now Quick/Lundy, maybe next 2 years Bob/Lundy.

You see though, Hank is always in the discussion, which shows how consistent he is. That's the advantage he has over the other goalies.
 
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