OT: Around the NHL: That Bedard kid is okay at hockey

[AuroraBorealis]

Should absolutely change the point system to 3 for a win in regulation. And then only 2 points for a win in OT. And 1 for an OT loss.

Would like that, but would like 3-1-0 + no OT/shootout more.

 

[Zirakzigil]

It's over 30 games in, McDavid is on pace for 150 points, Draisaitl for 140, and the Oilers are yet again a wildcard team in a bad conference. It's beautiful.

You hate to see it

 

[BusinessGoose]

Should absolutely change the point system to 3 for a win in regulation. And then only 2 points for a win in OT. And 1 for an OT loss.

Been saying this for a couple years. Incentive regulation win.

Would like that, but would like 3-1-0 + no OT/shootout more.

3 for a win, 1 for each team for a tie? And 0 for a loss?

 

[Peat]

I dunno. I used to think there were too many damned games. And realistically there probably are. But I feel like that grind is part of the reason it makes winning the Cup so impressive. It's like... the playoffs are a meat grinder. But you ALSO have to make it through the long distance marathon that is the regular season to even get to the meat grinder.

It's impressive, but in a "eating a 6lb burrito in 30 minutes" impressive sort of way. A true display of fortitude but you can't help but wonder what the point is.

And... yeah, it would diminish that sheer joy in winning a cup, maybe, if it took less games to get there. But the counter to that is I'd spend less of a season feeling, well, a bit bored.

Bad night for the Pens…I know NJD is falling off but other teams in the Metro like Rags and Caps are making a push…terrible time to meet Carolina…we need to take both games against them this week and the Rags Tuesday…

You're looking at this the wrong way.

This team doesn't need a red carpet to the playoffs. That shit doesn't help them. Makes them complacent.

This team needs to be pushed. So bring on murderer's row. Yeah, it'll make the team more tired for the playoffs... but so be it. You can't have everything. I think by and large, only really really special teams win the cup without feeling pushed.

Hell, I wish we weren't doing so well right now. March is the time to peak, not December.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Ovechkin literally glides around the ice all night and camps out at the defensive blueline. The only time he seems to actually take a stride is when he's got the puck in the neutral zone or along the offensive boards. He literally floats all games. No wonder he never gets hurt. The only time he takes contact is if he's the one initiating a hit.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

3 for a win, 1 for each team for a tie? And 0 for a loss?

Yes. That's the fairest format I can come up with. Incentive to win, fair resolution if a tie. No OT gimmicks that are hardly representative of the strength of teams.
The last 5 mins of regulation would act like OT anyway, since teams would go for the full 3 points.

Two bonuses from this would be games ending in a timely manner and the standings not being artificially close. If a team is good or bad it will show more.

 

[Andy99]

It's impressive, but in a "eating a 6lb burrito in 30 minutes" impressive sort of way. A true display of fortitude but you can't help but wonder what the point is.

And... yeah, it would diminish that sheer joy in winning a cup, maybe, if it took less games to get there. But the counter to that is I'd spend less of a season feeling, well, a bit bored.



You're looking at this the wrong way.

This team doesn't need a red carpet to the playoffs. That shit doesn't help them. Makes them complacent.

This team needs to be pushed. So bring on murderer's row. Yeah, it'll make the team more tired for the playoffs... but so be it. You can't have everything. I think by and large, only really really special teams win the cup without feeling pushed.

Hell, I wish we weren't doing so well right now. March is the time to peak, not December.

I smell another first round loss lol…

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Hell, I wish we weren't doing so well right now. March is the time to peak, not December.

How do we play it so we peak with goaltender availability in round 1?
I'd like them to win a round this time.

 

[Peat]

I smell another first round loss lol…

You could smell another first round loss in a steakhouse.

How do we play it so we peak with goaltender availability in round 1?
I'd like them to win a round this time.

If I knew the answer to such questions, I'd be busy making my millions

 

[Andy99]

How do we play it so we peak with goaltender availability in round 1?
I'd like them to win a round this time.

Well first of all we need Jarry to stop peaking in December….give him more time off and get him ready for the stretch run in February-March lol

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Well first of all we need Jarry to stop peaking in December….give him more time off and get him ready for the stretch run in February-March lol

If we're blowing out the 9th place team with ~10 games left, I say play Tokarski or Lindberg for all of them besides the last 2, which would be a warmup for Jarry + CDS.
I can't deal with this being the reason we lose 3 years straight. I'll have a mental break.

 

[DearDiary]

Ovechkin literally glides around the ice all night and camps out at the defensive blueline. The only time he seems to actually take a stride is when he's got the puck in the neutral zone or along the offensive boards. He literally floats all games. No wonder he never gets hurt. The only time he takes contact is if he's the one initiating a hit.

Ovechkin being a physical player is nonsense just because he has a high hit count, which also comes from a biased team count. He makes human contact 4-5 times a game, while he watches his linemates make contact 3-4 times a shift each

 

[AlphaMikeFoxtrots]

Marino scores, but sure looked like GI, but who knows.

Edit: Nope - It was Eric Staal's fault.

I'm glad he's thriving away from Sully.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

The Oilers' ice time allocation among their forwards is just laughable at this point. They're playing their top guys 25+ minutes per night, sprinkling in a couple of 13-16 minute guys, then literally playing their 3rd and 4th liners less than 12 minutes.

That team refuses to play a team defensive game and just continues to trot out their big guns to try and win games 5-4.

 

[AlphaMikeFoxtrots]

The Oilers' ice time allocation among their forwards is just laughable at this point. They're playing their top guys 25+ minutes per night, sprinkling in a couple of 13-16 minute guys, then literally playing their 3rd and 4th liners less than 12 minutes.

That team refuses to play a team defensive game and just continues to trot out their big guns to try and win games 5-4.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

The big guns have dazzling special teams numbers, will probably make the playoffs, the special teams opportunities nosedive *and* they're gassed, and a year older.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Lather, rinse, repeat.

The big guns have dazzling special teams numbers, will probably make the playoffs, the special teams opportunities nosedive *and* they're gassed, and a year older.

I just keep laughing at the "they have no depth" stuff while the Oilers keep stacking one line. It would be like the Pens in 2009 putting Crosby, Malkin and Staal all on one line and then complaining they're getting almost nothing from the other 3 lines.

 

[Tender Rip]

Nugent Hopkins and Hyman are above PPG with 36 and 34 points respectively. Kane has 13 in 14 games.

It is a top heavy team, sure, but D and goal tending are bigger problems now.

 

[AlphaMikeFoxtrots]

I just keep laughing at the "they have no depth" stuff while the Oilers keep stacking one line. It would be like the Pens in 2009 putting Crosby, Malkin and Staal all on one line and then complaining they're getting almost nothing from the other 3 lines.

Yep.

Their depth still isn't great! It doesn't have to look *this* bad, either. If they'd really sit with splitting them up and not panicking about their individual numbers, the FO might get a better idea of what specifically they need most, sooner than later. The current answer to that is "everything."

I maintain this doesn't get fixed without a new owner.

 

[Gurglesons]

I just keep laughing at the "they have no depth" stuff while the Oilers keep stacking one line. It would be like the Pens in 2009 putting Crosby, Malkin and Staal all on one line and then complaining they're getting almost nothing from the other 3 lines.

I honestly don’t understand why the Oilers suck so much in the regular season.

Like our defense wasn’t good for the majority of Sid and Malkin’s career. And Fleury wasn’t that great.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Prayers

It’s scary what his little girl went through.

I dunno. I used to think there were too many damned games. And realistically there probably are. But I feel like that grind is part of the reason it makes winning the Cup so impressive. It's like... the playoffs are a meat grinder. But you ALSO have to make it through the long distance marathon that is the regular season to even get to the meat grinder.

I can’t wait for Tampa to devise a new LTIR tactic to make those 84 games work for them.

 

[Peat]

Tbf both McDavid and Draisaitl have spent more time away from each other at 5v5 than together this season - not by much, but they have.

They're minuses without each other though. Draisaitl in particular gets used in a defensive role and gets his arse kicked.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

I honestly don’t understand why the Oilers suck so much in the regular season.

Like our defense wasn’t good for the majority of Sid and Malkin’s career. And Fleury wasn’t that great.

Because they intentionally sabotage their depth scoring. The Pens didn't, so the Pens weren't reliant on just Crosby's line producing in a given night, or just Malkin's line. With the Oilers, one line HAS to produce every single night.

On top of that, that team refuses to play any sort of tight defensive system. They run and gun and try to win games 5-4. So when their big guns can't score 3+ goals, they lose.

Their entire game plan is geared toward allowing McDrai to score as many points as possible, not win games.

Tbf both McDavid and Draisaitl have spent more time away from each other at 5v5 than together this season - not by much, but they have.

They're minuses without each other though. Draisaitl in particular gets used in a defensive role and gets his arse kicked.

The majority of that was when Kane was playing. Since he went down they've seem to have doubled down on stacking the top line. They'll go the occasional game with them split, but if McDrai are held to 1 point or less (regardless of team result) they're back together the next game.

 

[Gurglesons]

Because they intentionally sabotage their depth scoring. The Pens didn't, so the Pens weren't reliant on just Crosby's line producing in a given night, or just Malkin's line. With the Oilers, one line HAS to produce every single night.

On top of that, that team refuses to play any sort of tight defensive system. They run and gun and try to win games 5-4. So when their big guns can't score 3+ goals, they lose.

Their entire game plan is geared toward allowing McDrai to score as many points as possible, not win games.


The majority of that was when Kane was playing. Since he went down they've seem to have doubled down on stacking the top line. They'll go the occasional game with them split, but if McDrai are held to 1 point or less (regardless of team result) they're back together the next game.

I mean if we compare Crosby in 2009 at 5v5 versus McDavid in 2021-22 at 5v5. McDavid actually played less with Drai than Sid did with Malkin.

He's on pace to play more minutes this year than Sid did in 2009, but still.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

I mean if we compare Crosby in 2009 at 5v5 versus McDavid in 2021-22 at 5v5. McDavid actually played less with Drai than Sid did with Malkin.

He's on pace to play more minutes this year than Sid did in 2009, but still.

I'm talking about this season. Last year was the first time they tried them apart for any reasonable time.

 

[Turin]

I'm glad he's thriving away from Sully.

He’s pretty much the exact same player as last year he just uses white tape now