Around the NHL - Part XLII - (2023-24 Season edition)

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LokiDog

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If Hughes keeps playing the way he has been, he might jump up to top 3 in the league for me. He’s playing pretty insane right now.

Crazy to think that this time last year HE was considered a massive bust 1OA.

This time last year he had just come off of 56 points in 49 games and been an all-star, and was about 6 games into a 99 point season. Maybe the year prior, when he was coming off 31 in 56, as a 19-20 year old for a disappointing 45 point pace sophomore season, but he was already trending in the right direction. Season one was bad. Season two was an improvement, season 3 was well over point per game and, last year, season 4 was out of this world. He’s continuing right along on that path.
 
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SA16

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Right...

You would need some kind of passive or active positioning, and a gyroscopic sensor to determine the orientation of the puck.

If you knew the pucks precise location and it's orientation, it's trivial to figure out if it's passed the goal line.

That said, precise indoor 3D location tracking may not be there yet.

Not only do you need to fit all this tech inside of a puck, it has to be really small as to not effect the overall density/feel of the pucks.

You don't need that at all. You just need it to be close. A camera isn't 100% accurate either. They're often on an angle or obscured. Sensors don't have that issue. It will almost surely be right more often than a camera and removes all subjectivity. You don't need perfection immediately. You just need an improvement on what we have now.
 
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Kords

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This time last year he had just come off of 56 points in 49 games and been an all-star, and was about 6 games into a 99 point season. Maybe the year prior, when he was coming off 31 in 56, as a 19-20 year old for a disappointing 45 point pace sophomore season, but he was already trending in the right direction. Season one was bad. Season two was an improvement, season 3 was well over point per game and, last year, season 4 was out of this world. He’s continuing right along on that path.
Yeah, the season he was missed time looks alot better when you look at games played for sure. Those were literally his own words that you bolded though and many people around HF were saying the same. Not just something I pulled out of my rear.
 

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You don't need that at all. You just need it to be close. A camera isn't 100% accurate either. They're often on an angle or obscured. Sensors don't have that issue. It will almost surely be right more often than a camera and removes all subjectivity. You don't need perfection immediately. You just need an improvement on what we have now.
Disagree...

If we're just going for "close" then I'm fine with the status quo.

It's either completely automated and exacting... or we just leave it with humans.
 

SA16

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Disagree...

If we're just going for "close" then I'm fine with the status quo.

It's either completely automated and exacting... or we just leave it with humans.

So you'd rather be right 95% of the time with one method than 98% of the time with another method?
 

SA16

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Yes. I'd rather a supposedly non-biased human get it wrong, then have to rely on biased arena crews calibrating imperfect hardware that has such a large margin of error.

These things don't have large margins of error. It's also obviously going to happen at some point in the future.
 

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These things don't have large margins of error. It's also obviously going to happen at some point in the future.
For indoor 3D positioning in an arena full of wireless interference?

I doubt the margin of error is currently small. I'm sure it will be improved upon, but I have my doubts about today's viability.
 
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