Around the NHL - Part XLII - (2023-24 Season edition)

[noncents]

Seeding probably going to come down to the last game of the season for Pens and piles

with both wanting to lose to face us


fans of other teams see the same thing we see. They are the Rangers as the winnable matchup compared to carolina, boston, florida, toronto.


and honestly it comes down to our stars. They feel that fox and panarin can be neutralized, and nothing else beyond shesterkin scares them. Zibanejad and Kreider put no fear into other fans especially this year. what makes a top line a top line is even strength production against tough matchups. 20-93-?? have not done that this year. They didn't do it last year in the playoffs. I'm not even sure they did it two years ago - i feel like the bust line carried us.

I know there are a lot of people who feel like not being optimistic is a referendum on quality of fanhood, but on paper this top 6 issue is worrisome.

 

[Nickmo82]

Detroit missed the empty net like 8 times.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

i really hope Detroit is the match up in rd1.

Thats basically a bye.

 

[SA16]

with both wanting to lose to face us


fans of other teams see the same thing we see. They are the Rangers as the winnable matchup compared to carolina, boston, florida, toronto.


and honestly it comes down to our stars. They feel that fox and panarin can be neutralized, and nothing else beyond shesterkin scares them. Zibanejad and Kreider put no fear into other fans especially this year. what makes a top line a top line is even strength production against tough matchups. 20-93-?? have not done that this year. They didn't do it last year in the playoffs. I'm not even sure they did it two years ago - i feel like the bust line carried us.

I know there are a lot of people who feel like not being optimistic is a referendum on quality of fanhood, but on paper this top 6 issue is worrisome.

I can assure you that other fanbases see Kreider who has scored 52,36,37+ goals the last 3 years and are worried about him beating them. It's just this fanbase that likes to pretend everyone on the team is terrible.

 

[noncents]

I can assure you that other fanbases see Kreider who has scored 52,36,37+ goals the last 3 years and are worried about him beating them. It's just this fanbase that likes to pretend everyone on the team is terrible.

On the PP, yes. other teams fear our PP.

they don't fear us at 5v5

 

[PuckLuck3043]

with both wanting to lose to face us


fans of other teams see the same thing we see. They are the Rangers as the winnable matchup compared to carolina, boston, florida, toronto.


and honestly it comes down to our stars. They feel that fox and panarin can be neutralized, and nothing else beyond shesterkin scares them. Zibanejad and Kreider put no fear into other fans especially this year. what makes a top line a top line is even strength production against tough matchups. 20-93-?? have not done that this year. They didn't do it last year in the playoffs. I'm not even sure they did it two years ago - i feel like the bust line carried us.

I know there are a lot of people who feel like not being optimistic is a referendum on quality of fanhood, but on paper this top 6 issue is worrisome.

Well they be wrong. This team is tops in the league for a reason no matter how many people shit on them.

 

[turcotte8]

i really hope Detroit is the match up in rd1.

Thats basically a bye.

No team is a bye. One thing you can count on with the Rangers is they will make any situation as difficult as possible.

 

[SA16]

On the PP, yes. other teams fear our PP.

they don't fear us at 5v5

I highly doubt that. It's just the cool thing to do to pretend the team is bad so you can say I told you so if they lose at some point. Do you fear Tampa at 5v5? Did you know Tampa has scored less 5v5 goals than the Rangers?

 

[PuckLuck3043]

I highly doubt that. It's just the cool thing to do to pretend the team is bad so you can say I told you so if they lose at some point. Do you fear Tampa at 5v5? Did you know Tampa has scored less 5v5 goals than the Rangers?

100% true.

 

[noncents]

I highly doubt that. It's just the cool thing to do to pretend the team is bad so you can say I told you so if they lose at some point. Do you fear Tampa at 5v5? Did you know Tampa has scored less 5v5 goals than the Rangers?

listen you can argue against the guy you're creating in your head, or you can actually respond to what i personally am saying.

i actually don't fear tampa as much 5v5. i fear their goaltending and their PP

 

[SA16]

Bad 5v5 goal scorer Chris Krieder has a better G/60 than Connor McDavid, Roope Hintz, Brad Marchand, Dylan Larkin, Aleksander Barkov, Jason Robertson, Jesper Bratt, Leon Draisaitl, Matthew Tkachuk, Elias Pettersson, Jack Hughes, and many more players this year. Guess 90% of the league is bad at scoring goals.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

listen you can argue against the guy you're creating in your head, or you can actually respond to what i personally am saying.

i actually don't fear tampa as much 5v5. i fear their goaltending and their PP

Most people fear Tampa overall because of their high end talent, Goaltending, PP, and vets who have been through the wars. That's the point. Just because their 5 on 5 is not as good does not mean they aren't an extremely dangerous team. Same for the Rangers.

 

[noncents]

Bad 5v5 goal scorer Chris Krieder has a better G/60 than Connor McDavid, Roope Hintz, Brad Marchand, Dylan Larkin, Aleksander Barkov, Jason Robertson, Jesper Bratt, Leon Draisaitl, Matthew Tkachuk, Elias Pettersson, Jack Hughes, and many more players this year. Guess 90% of the league is bad at scoring goals.

lol like i said you have a specific rangers fan in your head and you are projecting that dudes opinions onto me so you can say your piece. whatever.

if you take a second - i wasn't even talking about my personal opinion. I was talking about the opinions of other fanbases.

Most people fear Tampa overall because of their high end talent, Goaltending, PP, and vets who have been through the wars. That's the point. Just because their 5 on 5 is not as good does not mean they aren't an extremely dangerous team. Same for the Rangers.

it's not that tampa's stars have been through the wars. it's that tampas stars have gotten them to the top of the mountain.

 

[noncents]

ok retraction my personal opinion did make it into the post you're responding to. mea culpa. the point i was trying to make was about how other fanbases view our team as the easy 1st round matchup

 

[PuckLuck3043]

ok retraction my personal opinion did make it into the post you're responding to. mea culpa. the point i was trying to make was about how other fanbases view our team as the easy 1st round matchup

Unless they are very dumb or drunk no fanbase views the Rangers as an easy 1st round opponent. I would only expect that from the Devils fanbase which is delusional.

 

[noncents]

Unless they are very dumb or drunk no fanbase views the Rangers as an easy 1st round opponent. I would only expect that from the Devils fanbase which is delusional.

it is my personal belief that a majority of other fanbases see Rangers as beatable compared to boston tampa florida carolina and toronto.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

it is my personal belief that a majority of other fanbases see Rangers as beatable compared to boston tampa florida carolina and toronto.

I don't see it but I don't care either.

 

[GAGLine]

i really hope Detroit is the match up in rd1.

Thats basically a bye.

 

[noncents]

I don't see it but I don't care either.

do you have buddies who are fans of any of these other teams? i think it's interesting anecdotally, if ultimately irrelevant.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Kravtsov night in Washington

 

[DialUp]

do you have buddies who are fans of any of these other teams? i think it's interesting anecdotally, if ultimately irrelevant.

My real life non-Ranger fan friends: Rangers are good
Any non-Ranger HFBoard (especially Main): I swear I saw an "e" next to their logo on ESPN's standings. Interesting, what's the difference between them and Columbus? Jail Rempe!
Reddit: Rong0z baHd!

 

[PuckLuck3043]

do you have buddies who are fans of any of these other teams? i think it's interesting anecdotally, if ultimately irrelevant.

A few Bruins fans and Islander fans. They all think the Rangers are very good.

 

[redwhiteandblue]

Carolina proving even more (IMO) that they are frauds. Barely up 2-0 in the third at home vs a Columbus team who played last night.

Pens are only team I'm slightly worried about. That's mostly because I'm 36 and know the power of Sidney Crosby, and see what's happening right now. To put it best:

 

[IDvsEGO]

Carolina proving even more (IMO) that they are frauds. Barely up 2-0 in the third at home vs a Columbus team who played last night.

Pens are only team I'm slightly worried about. That's mostly because I'm 36 and know the power of Sidney Crosby, and see what's happening right now. To put it best:

I wouldn’t call a team a fraud for only being up 2 goals on cbj considering our record against them…

 

[redwhiteandblue]

I wouldn’t call a team a fraud for only being up 2 goals on cbj considering our record against them…

I mean this more as a continuance of previous points I've made, not really a specific point vs Columbus. They have not struck me as scary since their deadline moves.

Just another example imo of them being more good vs elite.