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Around the NHL - Part XLII - (2023-24 Season edition)

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Kaapo di tutti capi said:
I feel like Gauthier is similar to Brendan Lemieux in that we were all salivating at the thought of what he could be instead of what he actually is. He's an excellent skater, full stop. That's the extent of his NHL level skillset. It'd be nice if he was a huge, strong version of Hagelin, but he isn't.
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He has potential. I've joked about it and compared him to a WWF Attitude Era wrestler (for those wrestling fans who remember, they limited the in ring work and essentially all had like 2-3 signature moves they'd do every match): he has his speed move and beat the goalie on the side he uses like 4-5 times a year. If some coach could get him to backcheck and learn defense better, he might turn into a Sjostrom-type.

Lemieux isn't exactly a smart person.
 
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Roo Returns said:
He has potential. I've joked about it and compared him to a WWF Attitude Era wrestler (for those wrestling fans who remember, they limited the in ring work and essentially all had like 2-3 signature moves they'd do every match): he has his speed move and beat the goalie on the side he uses like 4-5 times a year. If some coach could get him to backcheck and learn defense better, he might turn into a Sjostrom-type.

Lemieux isn't exactly a smart person.
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I thought Gauthier was going to come into his own after he legitimately choked Sanheim last year. Classic "looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane" guy.
 
If zegras is still malcontent, and I can see it for kakko, I honestly don't see how this doesn't result in kakko getting the ice time and role he wants in Anaheim and zegras coming home. Same age same draft. It's destiny.
 
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Tob said:
If zegras is still malcontent, and I can see it for kakko, I honestly don't see how this doesn't result in kakko getting the ice time and role he wants in Anaheim and zegras coming home. Same age same draft. It's destiny.
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Either him or Byram.

All 3 are from the same draft and and struggling this year with injuries and just general suckiness.
 
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KirkAlbuquerque said:
Either him or Byram.

All 3 are from the same draft and and struggling this year with injuries and just general suckiness.
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I just dont see where Zegras fits into this this lineup. Its more skill, yes, but also no grit or any defensive acuman which is already a bug problem for us.

D u put him On the third line with cuylle and who if u trade kakko?

He also sucks defensively so its not like u can move him up between panarin and laff, bc that might be the worst forward line defensively in NhL history.

Ideally we get a center that can go between kakko and cuylee. One which has offensive skill and also good defensively.

Someone said Boone Jenner. He would slot really well between those two. But i dont see how we could acquire him.

Not alot of options this year. Especially since we still need a 2nd line RW to go with zib and kreider.
 
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Tob said:
If zegras is still malcontent, and I can see it for kakko, I honestly don't see how this doesn't result in kakko getting the ice time and role he wants in Anaheim and zegras coming home. Same age same draft. It's destiny.
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Ducks are going to want a similar trade with Drysdale but a much bigger return since Zegras has two 60+ point seasons on his resume'. They would want a player around his age that is a potential Top pairing D. I think they have a lot of faith in Carlsson and McTavish being the 1-2 C's down the middle, plus Gauthier looks very promising from watching the BC games to be their Sniper and lastly have Troy Terry who is looking like himself again. So I do see him possibly being pushed out in a couple of years, just not now though.

Picks won't get it done for Zegras. May even cost Gabe Perreault. Zegras is not good on Defense. but he is going to be a 70-80+ point Top 6 player in the league. Whether it's on wing or C not sure.

Not to sound like a jerk, but Kakko does not get Zegras.

Just to add, The Rangers need a Two-way C, Zegras does not fit the needs of the Rangers and they don't have a Top pairing D in their system to make that trade happen.
 
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Leonardo87 said:
Ducks are going to want a similar trade with Drysdale but a much bigger return since Zegras has two 60+ point seasons on his resume'. They would want a player around his age that is a potential Top pairing D. I think they have a lot of faith in Carlsson and McTavish being the 1-2 C's down the middle, plus Gauthier looks very promising from watching the BC games to be their Sniper and lastly have Troy Terry who is looking like himself again. So I do see him possibly being pushed out in a couple of years, just not now though.

Picks won't get it done for Zegras. May even cost Gabe Perreault. Zegras is not good on Defense. but he is going to be a 70-80+ point Top 6 player in the league. Whether it's on wing or C not sure.

Not to sound like a jerk, but Kakko does not get Zegras.

Just to add, The Rangers need a Two-way C, Zegras does not fit the needs of the Rangers and they don't have a Top pairing D in their system to make that trade happen.
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Might as well keep Perrault if that's the cost but ya, I know the value is off if it's kakko and smaller pieces and picks. Nothing else good in the NYR D pool to entice the ducks.
 
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Tob said:
Might as well keep Perrault if that's the cost but ya, I know the value is off if it's kakko and smaller pieces and picks. Nothing else good in the NYR D pool to entice the ducks.
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I think Henrique is a strong possibility but his cost will be a 1st round pick, question is does Drury feel this team is just a 2C/3C away from contending? I don‘t think so.
 
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I think Henrique is a strong possibility but his cost will be a 1st round pick, question is does Drury feel this team is just a 2C/3C away from contending? I don‘t think so.
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The question is does Drury care? Imo the odds are larger that he will splash for the sake of splashing and "fan excitement". I doubt he'll sit pat. If he doesn't splash that's the same as saying he'll do a sizeable retool in the summer. I think he'll go with the least resistance option.
 
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The question is does Drury care? Imo the odds are larger that he will splash for the sake of splashing and "fan excitement". I doubt he'll sit pat. If he doesn't splash that's the same as saying he'll do a sizeable retool in the summer. I think he'll go with the least resistance option.
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That's not Drury
 
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Leonardo87 said:
I think Henrique is a strong possibility but his cost will be a 1st round pick, question is does Drury feel this team is just a 2C/3C away from contending? I don‘t think so.
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Ya.... I wanna package kakko and a 1st for a longer term solution rather than kakko for scraps and a 1st for a rental. That's why I am allowing myself to dream about Zigger rather than expecting Henrique and a defenseman for a 1st, 2nd and Robertson
 
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getting ready again to watch teams i don't like get injured and lose
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LOFIN said:
The reason why Finland has usually done good with a less talented roster is the system and coaching. You should hope that with the way US Hockey program has been for years now, that this could give you and edge over the Canadians. Because they haven't changed one bit. They will rely on talent alone, the coach is there as a motivational speaker.
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and when talent isn't working , then they always resort to physical intimidation.
 
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Avs losing their composure. MacKinnon will be opening the sugar and cocaine ration during the 2nd intermission to pump up the boys to get physical in the 3rd.
 
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