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Around the NHL - Part XLI - (Playoffs Edition)
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Megustaelhockey
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Megustaelhockey
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I've gotta ask; do you actually miss Duclair and what he showed in his 18 games here, or do you miss the 'what might have been' if we suddenly learned how to develop forwards almost a decade ago?
No judgement, I just literally can't remember anything about his time here other than that we drafted him as one of 3 3rd rounders (and that Adam Tambellini was the first of those 3...)
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I think the notion that you can win in the playoffs spite your goalie or hope he gets hot out of nowhere should be dismissed. We heard it when Hank got paid and then again when Igor got his contract.
It was never Hank and it was always the lousy contracts of guys in front of em. Take note when Georgiev lays an egg, the revolving goalie door in Pitt and so on.
It was never Hank and it was always the lousy contracts of guys in front of em. Take note when Georgiev lays an egg, the revolving goalie door in Pitt and so on.
I always was a fan of Duclair. I always thought he’d be a better player than Buchnevich . Sadly both have better careers after they played for the Rangers.
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What do you mean both? Buch was a force his last couple of years with us.
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So the Panthers actually traded a guy who didn't show up in the playoffs and was out clubbing in Tampa while the team was on the verge of elimination for a guy who is active every shift, stirs shit up, and can also score 100 points. What a trade for them. Even if they lose to Boston, there's no shame in that. My guess is Barkov isn't going to be on that team for much longer. What a disappointing player. Gone from underrated to way overrated just like that.
Machinehead
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Road teams did nothing but win again last night.
Visitors are now 23-14 in the playoffs.
Visitors are now 23-14 in the playoffs.
haohmaru
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They traded a guy who didn’t show up in the playoffs for another guy considered a playoff choker…until this year when suddenly he’s scoring so now he’s a great playoff player. Just search Tkachuk Playoffs here there’s a ton of posts about it.
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NYRFANMANI
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Buch would have taken that step here too, if we had kept him.
Duclair made his path on many other teams. He was dealt very early, as opposed to Buch.
The Gloaming
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He was just playing with an actual playoff choker in Gaudreau.
At least he plays a playoff type game so he would be more likely to start scoring in the playoffs.
haohmaru
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Every time that commercial comes on during these games that says "Zibanejad Scores!" I get infuriated wishing it were true.
haohmaru
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Yeah, but the OP said that they have had better careers elsewhere and that is certainly true for Buch regardless of how he was tracking here. Best season here was 48 points and had 70+ and 60+ in subsequent seasons for the Blues.
SA16
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That's Panarin's issue too. This year he's playing with Trocheck (16 points in 33 playoff games before this year) and last year with Strome (8 points in 15 games before becoming a Ranger) so it's hard to expect much when he plays with guys who never produce in the playoffs.
That other guy who "didn't show up in the playoffs", Jonathan Huberdeau, had 16 points in 16 playoff games prior to last year which pretty much matches his regular season production.
Crosby has had 6 playoff runs where he scored under a point per game. Would be nice for Pittsburgh if he was more consistent and didn't choke in 40% of his playoff runs.
The Gloaming
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He could at least score sometimes on the PP. That would be nice.
He also has the 2nd highest cap hit in the league which Tkachuk doesn't have. So there's that.
NYRFANMANI
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You're conveniently leaving out that it was 48 pts in 54 games.
48pts in 54g
77pts in 73g
67pts in 63g
That's not a "better career elsewhere". Buch was close to peak form with us, had a great career with us and would have had similar seasons with us.
haohmaru
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Buchs NYR career is 195 points in 301 games.
Buchs STL career is 136 points in 143 games.
Which is the better one? Conjecture about what he might or might not have done doesn’t mean a hill of beans. You can assume that, I guess, but it doesn’t change the actual numbers.
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Buch’s total portfolio of work in St. Louis exceeds his work in New York. Probably because the Rangers lived through his growing pains then traded him right as he took off. There is something to be said about patience in the development process. There are days I want to trade the Kids and their no good cycling-to-nothing asses for a pile of pucks. Then I look at guys like Mika and Buch and remember that some forwards don’t hit their stride until their mid-20s. Why give up on that possibility? I don’t have the answer, it’s a rhetorical question.
Machinehead
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They can't all be Adam Fox.
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That doesn't mean he was bad WHEN they won the cup. Guys end up like Jim Carey, Cam Ward, etc where they go from top 10 goalie to barely scraping a backup job. The idea is, don't let the notion of "any goalie in net can win a Championship" when you spend years building a contender only to fall flat because you neglected 1 position which can single handedly win or lose you games.
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