Around the NHL Part VIII
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To me, Ovie is a prime example of why stats can be incredibly overrated at face value. Context is everything, and I think a stat like +\- can provide some context (although nothing replaces actually watching games).
When a player can potentially put up 60g and still be a deeply minus player, to me it means, while incredibly talented, this player's style isn't conducive to winning in today's game. Ovie benefits from an incredible PP and being allowed to run wild at even strength. If Ovie was on LA or Boston, i think his goal total would drop by at least 20 G, possibly more. There's a reason why someone as talented as Kopitar can't put up 80p consistently, yet always leads his team in scoring. It's because he's an asset that is utilized as part of the team "concept", not a force who's allowed to just run aroud doing as he pleases.
Look at Ovie's shot totals compared to number 2 Sharp. The Caps run their entire offense through Ovie, which results in 2 things: inflated stats for Ovie and an extremely predictable offensive scheme (primarily at even strength).
Hunter Gathers
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The Devils seem to be either a terrible offensive team or a great one, nothing in between. Thankfully they're terrible about 90% of the time.
eco's bones
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Looked like another possible concussion for Clowe tonight. 4 more years of an NMC for him at almost $5 mil per year. The Clarkson deal was awful--this one may turn out to be even worse.
The Florida team just looks terrible though.
The Florida team just looks terrible though.
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For what it's worth, I feel NBC should allow commentators of both teams to call games on NBC, or at least join Doc Emrick. Especially during play off games, listening to the guys you hear every game all season, is the least they can do. It's easy to broadcast with 2 or 3 audio channels. Give fans the option
Hunter Gathers
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It's gold Jerry.
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So you pick the announcers that probably dislike the kings the most... good job NBCSN
Didn't the Sharks commentators call the Vancouver Green Men like "Snow Globe Collectors" or something?
Didn't the Sharks commentators call the Vancouver Green Men like "Snow Globe Collectors" or something?
I am so lost on your post
The league seriously needs to do something with this points system. It's illogical and absurd. Looking at total wins against total losses, the Rangers, Flyers, and Blue Jackets should already be playoff bound right now. NYR 42-34, PHI 39-35, CBJ 38-36. But DET is 35-41 and somehow has more points than Columbus? DET, WSH, etc should be a comfortable notch behind the Jackets and all clawing for that last spot. This system is severely flawed and just idiotic. I know I'm not preaching anything new, but it still baffles me and I can't fathom it.
Three points for a regulation win is all they'd have to do. Get rewarded for "real" wins - there is a reason why a hockey game is 60 minutes. I think it's OK that you get something when you draw, but it shouldn't be worth half a win.
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I totally agree, I just don't grasp why the league hasn't implemented this a few seasons ago. It's mind boggling
haohmaru
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Washington and the Devils being in it pisses me off a lot more than Detroit. Factoring OTL's as losses and those two teams are TERRIBLE.
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i agree the nhl should do just do away with the loser point in general and go back to the old system. the old system is what made the nhl unique as it was one of the top four sports where games could end in a tie, though it may not be a top 4 sport now. look at the MLS. when the league 1st started should a game end in a draw they tried some stupid shootout where the player could dribble in one on one with the keeper ( not traditional pks kicked from the pk spot ). they tried this crap to make the MLS more appealing to American fans should games end in draws. they soon learned it didn't work and they did away with it and went to the traditional way
this crap of awarding teams 1 point for getting into overtime just rewards mediocrity. back when teams knew if the game had a chance of going to overtime there was a sense of more urgency to play for the win and end it in regulation because teams knew should they lose in overtime no points were rewarded so now with the loser point look at what's happening more and more in the NHL with teams like Det, NJ, Washington, Ottawa and a few other teams hovering just below them in the loser point area
While the 3 point system like they have in Europe would solve a lot of this I feel like it's just another column that makes thing more complicated. Also it was bad enough when the loser point column was introduced and the effect it had on regular season record keeping. Then the shootout column was added changing record keeping even more. I believe adding 3 points for a win column/ 2points for overtime or shootout win / 1 point for overtime or shootout loss.....would make the record keeping that much worse.
I've been a fan since the early 70's. Ties didn't bother me after a hard fought game. and when the Rangers lost in overtime and got 0 points I didn't think the system needed any changing
This stupid shoot out was added to gain more fans and it hasn't really worked the way they wanted it to. The NHL was the same for 80 plus years and didn't need any changing like loser points and shootouts. The NHL was most popular in the early to mid 90's before all this crap
Beer League Sniper
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My huge problem with the current points system in the NHL is how one game, simply by being tied at the end of regulation, magically becomes "worth more" than a game decided in regulation. 2 total points get doled out for a game ending in regulation, while 3 total points get awarded for an OT/SO game. It's beyond idiotic and waters down regulation wins. The 3-point system is really the only fair way to do it:
3 Points - Regulation Win
2 Points - OT/SO Win
1 Point - OT/SO Loss
Keep ROW as the primary tiebreaker to award teams that actually win during the course of play, not a skills competition.
That's all they need to do, but the league wants 90% of teams to still be "in it" until the very end. It's infuriating.
3 Points - Regulation Win
2 Points - OT/SO Win
1 Point - OT/SO Loss
Keep ROW as the primary tiebreaker to award teams that actually win during the course of play, not a skills competition.
That's all they need to do, but the league wants 90% of teams to still be "in it" until the very end. It's infuriating.
So they want a small market team to potentially make it over big market...yea that'll get you money
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