Yeah, believe it would be the difference between 28 and 30/31. Some are in the camp of moving 3 down to see Zuc win it all. I’m good either way - 2, 20/21, 28/30/31. It’ll be another good draft day as long as Gorton and Geordie don’t screw the pooch in the 2nd again.
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will1066
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Synergy27
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So the Stars won, but it looks like MZA is injured? Not injured enough to not play but he’s got a knock of some sort?
Are we all placing too much emphasis on this extra first? I think it’s going to be a critical part of whatever Gorts is looking to do this summer. Would be nice to be able to package the Dallas first with a roster player to move up while still holding onto that WPG first.
Are we all placing too much emphasis on this extra first? I think it’s going to be a critical part of whatever Gorts is looking to do this summer. Would be nice to be able to package the Dallas first with a roster player to move up while still holding onto that WPG first.
Edge
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There's no way around it, higher assets make a big difference.
Consider that the difference between the Jets pick climbing to 22nd, from its previous position of 26th, is roughly the difference of having to spend a second round pick.
Since then we've already climbed another slot 21, and 20 is entirely possible. Let's say that one of Carolina or Columbus makes it to the ECF, not you're talking about maybe having that pick at 19. That's an additional movement of another three slots, or roughly a second round pick. So just with that pick alone, if we were to go from 26 to 19/20, that's roughly the value of two second rounders.
So now you take the Dallas pick, and you look at a difference of going from 50 to 28 --- that's tremendous. And that's to say nothing about the assets you have heading into the draft.
Yes, 2, 22, 37, 50 and 58 is great. But 2, 19, 28, 37 and 58 is better and worth significantly more. As is 2, 14, 19, 28, 37 and 58 if that becomes a thing.
Inferno
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This is where having elite talent differentiates teams...the ability to win games where you play like crap.. .any team regardless of talent can win games where they are at the tip top of their game. .. it's winning the games you're crap in that is generally done by singular talents.
Edge
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We often hear talk about someone who can win you game by themselves, guys who put the team on their back and carry it. That's what the hope is.
There's a popular misconception for people when they try to defend players who aren't going out and finding a way to win the game for you. The defense is usually that the player performed "well" or that the player was "good."
Frankly, being "good" isn't good enough. You need those talents who, at any given moment, can completely change the tide of a game --- and are likely to do it. And that includes elite players, as well as "clutch" players. When a team wins a championship, they usually have a combination of both. And one without the other, usually doesn't get it done.
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I actually like Nashville, but damn. These fans deserve a first round exit after chanting "Bishop, you suck" while being down 5-3 haha
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Matt Rentfree
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Assuming we can't trade up and assuming Newhook is off the board, I do
2) Kakko
20) Seider
28) One of Fagemo/Bjornfot/Thomson
Zegras and Newhook are the primary targets I would be interested in. Newhook would probably only take the Winnipeg pick plus the early second rounder to jump up in the early teens to get him. Zegras might require the potential Dallas pick and the Winnipeg pick to jump into the top 10 to get him.
Thirty One
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Well he's not fine. He shook hands with his left hand and isn't practicing. And he brought nothing in Games 5 & 6.
Edge
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Well, if there's a fluke like Button predicts, and Zegras falls to 12, I definitely make a call there.
Assuming that is off the table, I target Newhook. I don't even have to think twice about that. I have him in my top 10, have all year, and if he's on the board when we get to 14 or 16, I pick up the phone and try to make a deal.
At 28, things get a little harder to pinpoint, but I go for Dorofyev, who I have ranked 11th.
At 37, I hope a guy like Korczak is on the board.
Kakko, Newhook, Dorofyev, and Korczak.
I walk away with the guys I have ranked at 2, 9, 11 and 31.
I watched the handshakes between nashville and dallas. it was only on Zucc for a second, but he was shaking hands with the other team using his left hand. I think he is really dinged up, and heard he wasn't practicing only playing games cause it hurt too much. That guy is a warrior and I think will play the next round, but he is playing pretty badly hurt (to the point where he won't shake hands).
pretty amazing the amount of production he has considering.
Brooklyn Rangers Fan
Change is good.
Given that Zucc had a plate put in his right arm about a month ago, he would be wise to shake with his left hand regardless. My guess is it aches, whether or not it's been freshly dinged...
HockeyBasedNYC
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If Dallas wins another round and Zucc resigns there Gorton will look like a freakin' genius with the last two years of deadline moves.
He's already done very well.
He's already done very well.
leetch99
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Too much of the slew footing gong on . Is it just me or has this increased in the last few years ? Somebody eventually is going to be seriously hurt ....just a matter of time. I think it should be an automatic 5 Minute major and on the borderline ones....something new , a 3 Minute Major !!! LOL....I'll go on record as the first to suggest the penalty for the slewfoot ! We'll call it the Crosby 3 Minute Major in honor of him being so good at it .
TheTakedown
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It's half the playoff games in the first two rounds...
Assuming both series go 7 games, that would be 15, in which case he would have to play 8 games. As long as he plays at least 2 more games in the blues series, that condition will be met
First series ended in 6, so 13 games is the max for the first two rounds. He just needs to play one more game to get to 7 and ensure he plays half of the first two rounds.
As far as Zucc, yeah, he is dinged up but being careful. It's the same when guys score goals and skate by the bench to high five teamates. They sometimes use the other hand or angle the glove so it's a soft pat sometimes on the back of the glove instead of a slap high five.
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Ty brain farted mid post.. Needs one more, i have no dubts he gets that
Larrybiv
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Haha, I may have you beat there. My picks have been horrific but my reverse jinxes have worked for our Rangers (and am quite happy about that). Picking Winnipeg and Nashville worked in our favor. TB screwed everyone's picks and had them in cup vs Peg! Haha, what a joke. Had Calgary as well (go figure).
Only GOOD pick I am proud of was the Islanders over Pitt in 6.
If Washington loses, ALL #1 seeds are out in 1st round......again, go figure.
Have Toronto, Caps and Knights......so I literally have a chance on being incorrect 7 of 8! What a loser!
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