Around The NHL: Part IX - Blues: Mission Accomplished, Dallas: TBD

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Which is why it's the best playoff out there.

I disagree, but to each their own.

Sure, it's great if your teams is in the big show, but if you're just a regular type of viewer (meaning someone who isn't obsessed and posting on a message board), you want a good narrative. When you have true favorites and true underdogs the narratives are much more exciting. It's always better to have a villain.

When you have a playoffs like this year, it ends up being more like......who cares. Is there really any story? Literally, the biggest story of this playoffs already happened, Tampa got knocked out. Nothing that happens from here on out will be shocking. Meaning it's less exciting.
 
Ain't got no loyalty to these fools once I'm done with 'em.

Blues - done witchu

Knights - done witchu soon.

Nothin' personal, it's a draft thang.
I agree it definitely should be a draft thing but what about 90 percent of the people who wanted tb to lose (we lost out on what 26/27 spots). I would obviously prefer 28 over 30 or 31 but i'm not losing sleep over it especially if Zucc wins the cup over Ovechkin/Islanders/Boston/Leafs. I was stressing out over last nights overtime game and the Jets/Blues series I surely won't if Dallas reaches the next round.
 
I am pretty sure we could grab on of those with our second rounder but Wouldn't complain if they picked the one they liked at 28

Yeah - it's hard to guess who is still going to be on the board at 28. Robertson? Grewe? Lavoie? Heck, technically Knight might be there, and while I normally don't like drafting goalies before round 3, I'd be tempted if he was there at 28.
 
This is no time to be nice. Save that stuff for all the puppies I apparently accused Trouba of kicking in the Roster Building thread.

This is about Dallas coming painfully close, an OT away from the Cup Finals, with Zucc as a key component, and then having them feeling pressured into re-signing him this offseason.

Last time this happened in the NHL, a pretty good draft pick came along with it the following year. I'll take it!
 
Yeah - it's hard to guess who is still going to be on the board at 28. Robertson? Grewe? Lavoie? Heck, technically Knight might be there, and while I normally don't like drafting goalies before round 3, I'd be tempted if he was there at 28.
Knight probably won't be there but this board will explode with another goalie pick in the first round or two lol (albeit he definitely is a very very good goalie prospect).
 
With the exception of the Lightning, there wasn't much that separated these teams. People may look at the final seedings, but maybe not consider the context of recent play (except for the Blues that everyone knew what a great second half they were having). The 2 sweeps were the most shocking part, not the series results.

Done:

Calgary looked pretty mediocre those last couple of months. Lindholm hadn't scored in 20 games. Colorado came on late and played really well down the stretch to make the playoffs. It wasn't as big of an upset as it seemed.

The Penguins looked pretty suspect all season long. I thought they would win in 7 with playoff experience on their side, but I expected them to be out in the second round. It's not surprising that the Islanders beat them. Swept them? That was surprising.

The Blues were on a roll and Winnipeg looked unimpressive for most of the year. Hell wasn't playing great and Laine went MIA for a long stretch. Something wasn't right with that team.

Nashville was another team that looked off this season. How could their special teams look so bad? Dallas played well down the stretch. This series looked like a toss-up.

TB looked much the best. CBJ added a bunch of pieces and were playing playoff hockey just to make the playoffs. I guess this was a shocker, but there was always some doubt if this team was built for the playoffs. No one saw a sweep coming.

Still going:

Vegas and SJ looked like a toss-up. Neither played well down the stretch. SJ was missing EK and Vegas was missing Fleury. Vegas didn't look good for those last 2 games with Fleury back, but they had nothing to play for. To me, Vegas had the higher upside after the Stone trade.

Washington with the exception of the game against TB near the end of the season had played pretty passionless. Cup hangover? Carolina played pretty well down the stretch. I thought Carolina could win 1-2 games. I expect Washington to win with everything on the line.

Vegas and SJ were not playing well recently. Vegas was on a roll until it lost Fleury those last 3 weeks. Then they still looked bad when they got him back for those last 2 games. SJ didn't have EK for a long time. You can argue that they were missing key players, but they still didn't look good.

Vegas and SJ were not playing well recently. Vegas was on a roll until it lost Fleury those last 3 weeks. Then they still looked bad when they got him back for those last 2 games. SJ didn't have EK for a long time. You can argue that they were missing key players, but they still didn't look good.

My biggest surprise would be Toronto. They looked dreadful defensively. Even we beat them. I thought Boston was going to steamroll them. I still expect Boston to win.

My bracket had TB, PIT, WAS, BOS, COL, DAL, VEG, and STL. 3-2 isn't great so far, but not really surprising.
 
The ultimate "anything can happen" final would be Colorado/Dallas-Carolina/NYI. Until that happens, theres really no point in parading around the theory that there are no contenders.

But even coming into the playoffs the thought was that TB was the favorites in the East and the West was wide open.

Even if we look at some of the "cinderella" lower seeds that have either made it to the finals or won the whole thing (Philly 2010, LA 2012, Nashville 2017), the one thing in common these teams have is that they were much, much better than their actual place in the standings suggested. Columbus falls into that group.
 
Serious question: why should we, the rabid fans, care about what fair weather fans think?

Hockey isn't going to die. I don't care about ratings. I don't care if the guy standing next to me in the supermarket lineup knows who Pierre-Luc Dubois is.

And why should I? Again, honest question.

I understand if somebody just prefers having an unbalanced league where the skilled players decide the championships. I don't prefer that, but I understand it. What I don't understand, is why I should care what the opinion of people who only want to watch a couple games a year is.
 
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The ultimate "anything can happen" final would be Colorado/Dallas-Carolina/NYI. Until that happens, theres really no point in parading around the theory that there are no contenders.

But even coming into the playoffs the thought was that TB was the favorites in the East and the West was wide open.

Even if we look at some of the "cinderella" lower seeds that have either made it to the finals or won the whole thing (Philly 2010, LA 2012, Nashville 2017), the one thing in common these teams have is that they were much, much better than their actual place in the standings suggested. Columbus falls into that group.

Somehow I can see this becoming the rallying cry for us to go balls deep before we’re ready.
 
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Serious question: why should we, the rabid fans, care about what fair weather fans think?

Hockey isn't going to die. I don't care about ratings. I don't care if the guy standing next to me in the supermarket lineup knows who Pierre-Luc Dubois is.

And why should I? Again, honest question.

I understand if somebody just prefers having an unbalanced league where the skilled players decide the championships. I don't prefer that, but I understand it. What I don't understand, is why I should care what the opinion of people who only want to watch a couple games a year is.
So the cap is higher when Kakko's ELC is up.
 
Knight probably won't be there but this board will explode with another goalie pick in the first round or two lol (albeit he definitely is a very very good goalie prospect).

I don't think we'd explode with Knight at 28. That's good value and makes a hell of a lot more sense than Lindblom at 37. That said, Gorts said no goalie in the first round and I'm inclined to believe him.
 
So the cap is higher when Kakko's ELC is up.

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Stats people, explain this image. Saw it posted on another board and supposedly what's going on with Carolina and Washington (I guess the gap between them) is of note.

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Stats people, explain this image. Saw it posted on another board and supposedly what's going on with Carolina and Washington (I guess the gap between them) is of note.

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It means that Carolina has dominated in a stat which attempts to estimate how many goals a team would score in a game against average goaltending. The worst they did apparently was in game 5, where it was predicted that they'd score about 58% of the goals in that game.

What the model doesn't take into account though, is that Washington is much better at finishing their chances than Carolina. Carolina are advanced stats darlings, and Washington are an excellent example of why we shouldn't only use a single analytic when we look at a game.

These numbers demonstrate that immensely.

e - FWIW, I really don't like xG models. So perhaps I'm viewing this through a more cynical eye than most.
 
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