Around The NHL: Part IX - Blues: Mission Accomplished, Dallas: TBD

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Backstrom is such a clutch player. The type of player I hope for. Good-Great in the regular season... Elite in the post-season.

wasn't always the case. I remember when he used to get criticized for his no-shows against us in all those playoff series

 

[duhmetreE]

I can't see Dallas beating STL. Who knows.

I see a STL vs VGK WCF and a WSH vs CBJ ECF.

 

[Bob Richards]

Meh. I was rooting for them in the first round. I hate Pittsburgh that much.

Yup. I was okay with any outcome just because of the two teams. Now this is strictly an anti-Islander podcast.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Meh. I was rooting for them in the first round. I hate Pittsburgh that much.

Me too. No team in hockey that I hate more. I really don't care about the Isles.

 

[Baby Duck Homme]

So thus far we got the Bolts 2nd, The Jets 1st and Dallas is TBD? What is that Jets pick, is the number locked now?

 

[Harbour Dog]

So thus far we got the Bolts 2nd, The Jets 1st and Dallas is TBD? What is that Jets pick, is the number locked now?

The Jets pick is, at worst, 22nd, but for each conference finalist that goes our way, it gets one better. We need:

Carolina
Columbus
Vegas or Colorado
Dallas or St. Louis

Of course, Dallas would be much better than St. Louis, as that would also get us the 28th, 30th, or 31st pick instead of a mid-second round pick.

 

[FIRE DRURY]

I can't see Dallas beating STL. Who knows.

I absolutely can.

 

[FoxyClean]

Dallas is good but imo STL has been the best team in the league in 2019. I'd predict 4-1 Blues.

 

[TheDirtyH]

Islanders couldn't make it past BOS/TOR/CBJ. And STL looked like the better team in game six but mostly got bailed out of the previous five games by their goaltender. Vegas will in all likelihood be back in the finals

 

[NYR94]

Why pay the price the jets did for Hayes just to play him 12 minutes a game?

 

[Synergy27]

Why pay the price the jets did for Hayes just to play him 12 minutes a game?

I honestly can’t believe that the Rangers got the haul that they did for their rentals. Rentals basically ever work out. I hope when the Rangers are back in contention, they forego the rental route.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

The Jets pick is, at worst, 22nd, but for each conference finalist that goes our way, it gets one better. We need:

Carolina
Columbus
Vegas or Colorado
Dallas or St. Louis

Of course, Dallas would be much better than St. Louis, as that would also get us the 28th, 30th, or 31st pick instead of a mid-second round pick.

Sorry, but I'm really confused by how this process works. Can you (or anyone) please explain it to me? I was under the impression that the teams in the playoffs are essentially re-seeded (in terms of the draft) based on their success in the playoffs and regular season points. Thus, WPG now being out would have its pick be below all teams that move on to the next round. So as it stands now, the worst that pick would be could be 22. But if the teams you mentioned move on to the semi-finals, it could fall as low as 18. What I mean is that by the end of the 1st round, we will know exactly what # we are picking at because the second round has no bearing. Am I totally off-base here?

Why pay the price the jets did for Hayes just to play him 12 minutes a game?

Kinda reminds me of how AV treated Yandle and Smith when we traded for them. Hayes is a good player, but when you have a coach that gets accustomed to playing 'his guys,' they can be reluctant to trust the new player irrespective of their pedigree or higher ability than other teammates.

I honestly can’t believe that the Rangers got the haul that they did for their rentals. Rentals basically ever work out. I hope when the Rangers are back in contention, they forego the rental route.

I think your pretty correct when it comes to the higher end rentals, but I think mid-tier/lesser rentals are still important and you see these guys play signifciant roles on a lot of cup winners. I mean, I don't know that the caps win without Kempny last year. So the lesson is probably, don't spend through the teeth for a rental, but look for value in positions you could use an upgrade in.

Also, Zucc is playing an enormous role and will be a huge reason Dallas moves on should they make it through. If they make it past this round (and maybe even if they don't) their fans seem to be very happy with what he brought and the price they paid to get him.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Knights win tonight gets the Jets pick to #21!

 

[Kovalev27]

Same reason AV got E Staal and played him third line winger mins. These coaches get new guys they know nothing about and go back to trusting the guys they did all year. Dumb.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Same reason AV got E Staal and played him third line winger mins. These coaches get new guys they know nothing about and go back to trusting the guys they did all year. Dumb.

I knew I was forgetting someone. His usage of E Staal may have been the worst of his entire tenure here and that's saying a lot.

 

[NYR94]

Same reason AV got E Staal and played him third line winger mins. These coaches get new guys they know nothing about and go back to trusting the guys they did all year. Dumb.

Yeah I remember the Staal trade. What a disappointment.

 

[Edge]

Dallas is good but imo STL has been the best team in the league in 2019. I'd predict 4-1 Blues.

I dunno, St. Louis was also dangerously close to blowing a 2-0 series lead, nearly going down 3 games to 2. Then they came dangerously close to blowing a lead in game six.

They’d still be the favorites against Dallas. But they’re definitely vulnerable.

 

[Kovalev27]

I think Dallas May surprise people. Especially if Zucc continues to make that line go. STL is hardly unbeatable

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Clinching scenarios for the Rangers the next 2 days:

VGS or DAL win = 21st overall selection
VGS and DAL win = 20th overall selection
CAR loss = 18th overall selection no longer possible

 

[Larrybiv]

Yup. It will be our punishment for being too happy with the offseason. Even though we kind of got punished with NJD getting the #1 pick , the fact that most of our fanbase was cool with it means the Hockey Gods aren't satisfied. The Islanders will win the cup. Bet your house on it.

Not betting my house. No way. Getting a new roof and just finished beautifying my front yard. All about the "curb appeal".

 

[I Eat Crow]

Few things:

@Machinehead and I seem to be the only ones that think that Winnipeg trading Laine should be a possibility. Said it last night and have said it before. He's a mortal lock to score 35 to 45 in the regular season. When teams zero in on him and don't give him room, he's barely an NHL top 6 forward. I'd trade him for a ransom if I were Winnipeg for a young player and a high pick or two and build around Schiefele, Connor, Wheeler, Vesalainen, and Ehlers up front. Laine is not worth the contract he'll get. Edmonton would throw stupid money at him. I can see Calgary, Arizona, Tampa (yes, really if they move money around), Carolina, Florida, Boston, Montreal, and Columbus also interested. All of those teams have the trade capital to get it done.

The Rangers should stay far away from Laine. The Rangers need drivers. No more passengers. Kravtsov is a driver. Zibanejad is a driver. Kakko is a driver. Kreider is a driver but he will probably be lost to trade. The last run of Rangers teams didn't win because of the lack of elite talent and lack of offensive players that can drive a line. Too many passengers. For as talented as Gaborik and Nash were, for example, neither consistently drove play while they were here.

I completely blew the Calgary series. I thought they'd win easily. Colorado doesn't look like a team to mess with. Thought Calgary's heavy game and great defense and goaltending would win out in the end. They couldn't get any offense going and their great defense and goalie were under siege. I'd put them at the top of the list as suspects to add offensive help over the summer at the expense of a young defenseman like Andersson or Kylington.

The Rangers have a small right side, especially with Fox a possibility. Hajek is 6'3". Miller will play at 6'3" or 6'4". I'm not worried about perceived size concerns. I also think the Rangers make a hockey trade for a taller, more defensive minded RHD in the next couple of years.

Lastly, LOL Hockey News.

 

[Larrybiv]

With 3 division winners going down, leaves Washington standing right now. Jeeez it would suck.....if the Caps just outclass the rest for their b2b cups.

Loving the Blues and their game, but now we have to switch up and root for Dallas to beat them (a little premature here).

Could very well be a rematch with Vegas.
All other teams haven't......"been there, done that".

 

[Leetch3]

wasn't always the case. I remember when he used to get criticized for his no-shows against us in all those playoff series

It’s almost like you shouldn’t give up on highly talented players earlier in their careers when they struggle

 

[Vinny DeAngelo]

I wonder if we will kick tires on Trouba. Adding him and Fox this offseason would sure go a long way to shoring up our right side.

No please god no. Trouba is the most overrated defenseman in the game

 

[cheech70]

I am not sure what is going on in Dallas but when you have Benn,Tyler and Radulov being physical combined with there obvious high end skill you have a very dangerous team. There muckers are good also and of course Bishop. They may have enough to meet Vegas in CF.