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[kanadalainen]

Really impressive stretch by Laine here. Honestly I am glad for the kid, things didn’t work our here but I don’t tend to wish people ill in life and I got a kick out of him mostly (the diva shit not so much).

A few qualifiers to keep fans grounded.

Sample size. This is only 29 games into his season and honestly its more about a hot streak within side that sample size.

He has only had 79 shots to date which would translate to 223 over a full season and be pretty average for him. So he hasn’t corrected his #1 challenge which is that he doesn’t shoot enough.

He is currently shooting 20% year to date which is better than his best season here when he potted 40 goals as a 19 year old.

The first 16 games of the season he had 4 goals and it was business as usual for Laine post teen era

Over the past 7 games he can’t miss and has put up 10 goals on 24 shots. So he has had a 7 game stretch where he is shooting over 40%

So to summarize Laine has had an insane few weeks but we have seen that show in Winnipeg too.

To be clear he is doing allot better than last season but I don’t think he has taken the next step. For that to happen we are going to need to see his shooting volumes material progress.

Disclaimer: I like Laine, and I don't criticize him for his human faults - perceived or real.

This kid is like an F1 based turbo v10 Honda from the days of yore. If everything is right (humidity, track temp, the ascension of Orion, how much Fancy Feast his cat ate that morning) he is a monster for scoring. But everything *must* be clicking... a tall order for any coach or GM. He seems to have shed the effects of dealing with Tortorella (shudder), his most recent injury (obliques) and the death of his Dad. My pater died a couple of years ago and it still kicks my ass some days.

Good on you Patty, for perservering. I know some of you might point out that a lot of players deal with this kind of thing everyday.. but my sense is that Laine needs to get his shit straight on his own terms and it looks like its happening to some extent.

 

[bustamente]

Get ready for all the multiple reports from SN/TSN that the Leafs have interest in all the available rentals before the deadline

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Now on pace for 42 in 82, not a bad comeback season so far

Hat Trick! Now a 45 G pace - and 87 pt pace. That is looking like his first 2 years in Wpg, not his last 2. Jarmo is going to have to get out the chequebook.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Really impressive stretch by Laine here. Honestly I am glad for the kid, things didn’t work our here but I don’t tend to wish people ill in life and I got a kick out of him mostly (the diva shit not so much).

A few qualifiers to keep fans grounded.

Sample size. This is only 29 games into his season and honestly its more about a hot streak within side that sample size.

He has only had 79 shots to date which would translate to 223 over a full season and be pretty average for him. So he hasn’t corrected his #1 challenge which is that he doesn’t shoot enough.

He is currently shooting 20% year to date which is better than his best season here when he potted 40 goals as a 19 year old.

The first 16 games of the season he had 4 goals and it was business as usual for Laine post teen era

Over the past 7 games he can’t miss and has put up 10 goals on 24 shots. So he has had a 7 game stretch where he is shooting over 40%

So to summarize Laine has had an insane few weeks but we have seen that show in Winnipeg too.

To be clear he is doing allot better than last season but I don’t think he has taken the next step. For that to happen we are going to need to see his shooting volumes materially progress.

Streaks are normal. The hot streak will be followed by a cold streak, and then another hot streak.

Increased shot volume was the prescription for him when he lost his magic shot. If he has rediscovered it, he doesn't necessarily need the volume. If he can have both, he can be Ovi like.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Get ready for all the multiple reports from SN/TSN that the Leafs have interest in all the available rentals before the deadline

Not to mention all of the unavailable rentals too - and completely ignoring the cap.

 

[bustamente]

Whatever Laine was going to do in his NHL career it was quite evident it wasn't going to be done here, CBJ has to be cautious throwing big money at him because of his hot and cold streaks but a scorer who can pot 40-50 gets paid big time in the NHL

 

[Romang67]

Whatever Laine was going to do in his NHL career it was quite evident it wasn't going to be done here, CBJ has to be cautious throwing big money at him because of his hot and cold streaks but a scorer who can pot 40-50 gets paid big time in the NHL

I dunno, I think Connor's ~40th highest forward cap hit is perfectly reasonable.

 

[DRW204]

it's ironic, if you had said all this while he was a Jet, you'd get lambasted for this opinion. but pretty much this echo the drum i've been banging for the last 3-4 seasons with him. it's going to be difficult for him to be a 40+ goal player with that SOG volume & given the distance he shoots from. if he's getting 250 SOGs at at an average shot distance similar to PLD or Stastny (basically in front of the net), i can buy him shooting 16%-20% consistently. Like you said he's in the midst of a hot-streak now so everything looks great. & don't get me wrong, if he's hitting moreso in the 25-35goal range, that is still a quality year. i'm talking rocket contention.

Really impressive stretch by Laine here. Honestly I am glad for the kid, things didn’t work our here but I don’t tend to wish people ill in life and I got a kick out of him mostly (the diva shit not so much).

A few qualifiers to keep fans grounded.

Sample size. This is only 29 games into his season and honestly its more about a hot streak within side that sample size.

He has only had 79 shots to date which would translate to 223 over a full season and be pretty average for him. So he hasn’t corrected his #1 challenge which is that he doesn’t shoot enough.

He is currently shooting 20% year to date which is better than his best season here when he potted 40 goals as a 19 year old.

The first 16 games of the season he had 4 goals and it was business as usual for Laine post teen era

Over the past 7 games he can’t miss and has put up 10 goals on 24 shots. So he has had a 7 game stretch where he is shooting over 40%

So to summarize Laine has had an insane few weeks but we have seen that show in Winnipeg too.

To be clear he is doing allot better than last season but I don’t think he has taken the next step. For that to happen we are going to need to see his shooting volumes materially progress.

 

[Romang67]

it's ironic, if you had said all this while he was a Jet, you'd get lambasted for this opinion. but pretty much this echo the drum i've been banging for the last 3-4 seasons with him. it's going to be difficult for him to be a 40+ goal player with that SOG volume & given the distance he shoots from it. if he's getting 250 SOGs at at an average shot distance similar to PLD or Stastny (basically in front of the net), i can buy him shooting 16%-20% consistently. Like you said he's in the midst of a hot-streak now so everything looks great. & don't get me wrong, if he's hitting moreso in the 25-35goal range, that is still a quality year. i'm talking rocket contention.

Well, you'd get lambasted by certain posters, who for the most part aren't around these parts anymore.

But yeah, compare his shot totals to KC, who is pacing for around 365 shots this season. Does Laine have a better shot than KC? Arguably, but let's say yes. But to score as many goals as KC, he needs to keep up a sh% of 21.7. And that's if KC retains his current (uncharacteristically low) sh% of 13.1.

He simply doesn't have the overall game to be a rocket contender. He would need to keep up a shooting percentage of around 25% to content for the rocket. But those heaters he goes on when he's scores like that are undeniably entertaining.

 

[DRW204]

well, he did finish in rocket contention in 17-18 where he finished 2nd in goals. maybe it could happen again? iirc, he is the only NHLer in history to score 40+ goals in under 16.5min/gp. and he did it as a 19 year-old lol. will say 17-18 was a long ass time ago now though.

he was shooting nearly 30% on the PP in 17-18 which helps a lot. that was with a star studded cast of wheeler in his play-making prime, scheifele, connor, and buff. i don't think CBJ has the supporting talent to mimic that yet.

i hope laine does really well though. going through the injuries, losing your pops, really pulling for him.

Well, you'd get lambasted by certain posters, who for the most part aren't around these parts anymore.

But yeah, compare his shot totals to KC, who is pacing for around 365 shots this season. Does Laine have a better shot than KC? Arguably, but let's say yes. But to score as many goals as KC, he needs to keep up a sh% of 21.7. And that's if KC retains his current (uncharacteristically low) sh% of 13.1.

He simply doesn't have the overall game to be a rocket contender. He would need to keep up a shooting percentage of around 25% to content for the rocket. But those heaters he goes on when he's scores like that are undeniably entertaining.

 

[ps241]

Well, you'd get lambasted by certain posters, who for the most part aren't around these parts anymore.

But yeah, compare his shot totals to KC, who is pacing for around 365 shots this season. Does Laine have a better shot than KC? Arguably, but let's say yes. But to score as many goals as KC, he needs to keep up a sh% of 21.7. And that's if KC retains his current (uncharacteristically low) sh% of 13.1.

He simply doesn't have the overall game to be a rocket contender. He would need to keep up a shooting percentage of around 25% to content for the rocket. But those heaters he goes on when he's scores like that are undeniably entertaining.

yea sharing our board with non Jets fans was a challenge.

as you and @DRW204 were mentioning the frustration was Patrik not getting into the high dander areas enough, not shooting enough, and his poor puck security.

When he’s rolling like now it’s really fun to watch with his effortless release. I was always waiting for him to take that next step like Connor has this season but up until this point it hasn’t happened yet. I am happy he is having a bounce back season. We’ll see how it goes in the last 30 games for him.

 

[Thechozen1]

Reilly had a nice end to end goal tonight

Yeah, it was Reilly nice!!!

 

[buggs]

EN hat trick goal for Laine

Channeling his inner Wheeler. Not on the hat trick, the EN aspect.

 

[bustamente]

Maple Leafs got rid of the mistake free agent signing sending Ritchie and a pick to the Coyotes for Dzingel and Lyubushkin, parade is back on

 

[sipowicz]

Finland wins the first AHL level Olympic Gold for men's hockey!

 

[WolfHouse]

Man, Sportsnet and TSN are falling all over themselves praising Dubas' genius on a nothing trade...

 

[snowkiddin]

Maple Leafs got rid of the mistake free agent signing sending Ritchie and a pick to the Coyotes for Dzingel and Lyubushkin, parade is back on

Well Dzingel is already on waivers, but apparently they only cared about the defenseman

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Man, Sportsnet and TSN are falling all over themselves praising Dubas' genius on a nothing trade...

It is not a nothing trade. It is paying a price (small, true) to correct the bonehead move he made in the off-season. Just smart enough to recognize having made a dumb mistake does not = genius.

 

[bustamente]

The Leafs D is terrible and that was masked by Campbell standing on his head, so far in the new year Campbell has been below average and the Leafs are losing games thus make a trade for a free agent 5-6 D man and a guy you really don't want or have room on the roster for, pure genius that Dubas. Well at least he got rid of a player that should be in the AHL that the Leafs tried to make a top line player

 

[WolfHouse]

It is not a nothing trade. It is paying a price (small, true) to correct the bonehead move he made in the off-season. Just smart enough to recognize having made a dumb mistake does not = genius.

Umm that’s kind of the definition of a nothing trade….

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Umm that’s kind of the definition of a nothing trade….

Moving out 2.5 mil in desperately needed cap space is not nothing. Signing Ritchie was not nothing. So correcting the mistake is not nothing.

I suppose you could sum the value of all the players involved and come out with nothing, if that is how you want to define it. But it was about cap space.

 

[WolfHouse]

Moving out 2.5 mil in desperately needed cap space is not nothing. Signing Ritchie was not nothing. So correcting the mistake is not nothing.

I suppose you could sum the value of all the players involved and come out with nothing, if that is how you want to define it. But it was about cap space.

They had already waived Ritchie…. Now they have waived Dzingel - but only avmfter pundits said he was a good depth piece haha - and now lyubushkin who has never shown anything at all is being touted as a top four potential

3rd round pick to dump salary is a nothing trade… instead there’s four articles of analysis on TSN haha

 

[SUX2BU]

Coilers up 3-0 on ministonka

6 minutes into the first

 

[Orrrules]

Gene getting a haircut lol

 

[SUX2BU]

Gene getting a haircut lol

now, get a nose job