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jokesondee

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Feb 23, 2018
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Leaf's Matthews to miss the game tonight with an "Upper body Injury"

Since always so vague, assume its a bad upper body related case of "swollen nostrils"?
I heard it was a shoulder injury due to heavy collar fatigue.
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voyageur

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Jul 10, 2011
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Kuemper and big save dave have the kings in first place .... bizarre season
I think the emergence of Brandt Clarke, who is 5th in defensemen scoring so far this year, helps. Including a beauty spinorama on Pietrangelo last week. I'd say he is the front runner for the Calder (edit he isn't eligble after playing 9 games 2 seasons ago, and 16 last season) The Kings had the framework to be a good defensive team. Getting rid of Dubois probably helped them in terms of penalties taken. But Dubois is having a decent season. Nothing special, he'd be tied for 12th on the Jets scoring so far. Connor Mc Michael has taken some key minutes from him though, on the PP.
 
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KingBogo

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Nov 29, 2011
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I don't know if he ever gets back or can even do anything close to what he used to do

Landeskog type situation is that constant reminder that a professional sports career comes with no guarantees. I'm sure those types of situations enter into players minds when they sign contracts. Sometimes a little more term beats the shit out of a little more AAV.
 

surixon

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I think the emergence of Brandt Clarke, who is 5th in defensemen scoring so far this year, helps. Including a beauty spinorama on Pietrangelo last week. I'd say he is the front runner for the Calder (edit he isn't eligble after playing 9 games 2 seasons ago, and 16 last season) The Kings had the framework to be a good defensive team. Getting rid of Dubois probably helped them in terms of penalties taken. But Dubois is having a decent season. Nothing special, he'd be tied for 12th on the Jets scoring so far. Connor Mc Michael has taken some key minutes from him though, on the PP.

Clarke is a fantastic young player.
 

DeepFrickinValue

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I think the emergence of Brandt Clarke, who is 5th in defensemen scoring so far this year, helps. Including a beauty spinorama on Pietrangelo last week. I'd say he is the front runner for the Calder (edit he isn't eligble after playing 9 games 2 seasons ago, and 16 last season) The Kings had the framework to be a good defensive team. Getting rid of Dubois probably helped them in terms of penalties taken. But Dubois is having a decent season. Nothing special, he'd be tied for 12th on the Jets scoring so far. Connor Mc Michael has taken some key minutes from him though, on the PP.
How is PLD? 1 goal on a very hot Washington team.
 

WolfHouse

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My god sportsnet.... they list they dont even list the jets 12-1 start in 'things we have learned' article...
 

StumpyTown

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Nashville is actually worse than San Jose. I'm sure it won't last but wow what a disappointing start. Just goes to show that opening up the wallet during free agency is not always the best course of action.

Maybe another cancelled outing at the Sphere is in order.
Both Vegas with Marchessault and Tampa with Stamkos moved on from those guys knowing full well that they were only shells of the players they once were. Nevermind signing the guys, I was blown away with how much they both got from Trotz.
 

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Both Vegas with Marchessault and Tampa with Stamkos moved on from those guys knowing full well that they were only shells of the players they once were. Nevermind signing the guys, I was blown away with how much they both got from Trotz.
I'm still rather amazed that we still have a lot of older players getting high dollar contracts around the league. It's understandable in the cases like Wheeler/Scheifele/Hellebuyck - guys around 30 who sign 7-8 year deals that may not age well. Those contracts seem unavoidable because the UFA market would pay them as much or more given their performance at the time.

I had thought when we shifted to seeing a large number of players jump straight from ELC to 7 or 8 year deals we might see those legacy type contract go away, but nope, it just doesn't seem to happen. I suppose there's beauty in that for Winnipeg in that the Stamkos' of the world wouldn't come here anyway, so it removes the temptation from Chevy of trying to offer them.

Teams definitely have a need for veteran players, especially quality vets like Scheifele and Helle. But I'm definitely in line with Whilee's notion of exercising caution with players once they reach the UFA years as we've extracted good economic value from their ELC/RFA years. Think Trouba for example. Painful to lose him, but his UFA years haven't looked all that exceptional. There are a few other examples. I'm hoping we'll take that view with Pionk (though he was a different scenario entirely), in spite of his improved play this year. Let someone else pay for his dwindling twilight years.
 

DeepFrickinValue

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Both Vegas with Marchessault and Tampa with Stamkos moved on from those guys knowing full well that they were only shells of the players they once were. Nevermind signing the guys, I was blown away with how much they both got from Trotz.
Add Adam Henrique to that list as well. Shorter contract but 1 goal and no assists.
 
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Buffdog

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Feb 13, 2019
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McGroarty having about as bad a start to his pro career as you could have. One assist and a -6 in 8 games on a team that has a winning record in the AHL.
That's a goddam shame lol

He'll probably turn it around at some point, but he gives me some "Barlow vibes"... he's a scorer who isn't a great skater (though not terrible) and doesn't do a whole hell of a lot else if the puck isn't going in the net
 

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