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Oneiro

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I didn't expect them to be this bad but knew it wouldn't work out. I thought they'd still be an easy round 1 out, as usual.

You alway respect goal scoring ability but I've never been a big fan of Stamkos. I kind of enjoy that they did the right thing under all that heat and swapped him for Guentzel, who I think will be viewed as just as good by the time his career is done.
 
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jkrdevil

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there is always a team willing to roll the dice that an aging top player can hold on at a top level a few more years. I’m sure each player is different but my guess is that if you looked closely at Stamkos you would have seen the erosion in his game
I mean they basically won a Cup without Stamkos already and if you want to go way back nearly got to a final without him (though a bit unfair to go back that far as he was still a play driving player then and they had gone to the Final previous year with him).
 

MasterofGrond

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there is always a team willing to roll the dice that an aging top player can hold on at a top level a few more years. I’m sure each player is different but my guess is that if you looked closely at Stamkos you would have seen the erosion in his game
Stats have been suggesting Stammer was pretty cooked last year and declining the year before that, point totals be damned.

I’m not saying Kucherov could turn me into an NHL player, but he could probably get me going in the NCAA
 

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I remember watching the Wahlstrom clip and segment when it was new, back when he was like 9 years old. I figured he was so good that he'd really have to suffer some kind of a physical injury or just completely lose interest and passion to not do hockey as a profession. But I forgot all about him after that.

It wasn't until he was drafted and that video resurfaced that I remembered seeing all of that back in 2009.




He has a pretty good shot, but not much else. It seemed like for a while that maybe Trotz just didn't like him, but he's been even worse under Lambert and Roy. Seems like a dude that might just spend the remainder of his career in Europe after another year or two of staying here in the AHL and trying to get back in the NHL.
 

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Sounds like Justin Schultz is retiring after a brief stint in the Swiss league. Doesn't seem that long ago that I thought about flying to Oklahoma City to catch the Oilers prospects (Schultz, Hall, Eberle, Nugent-Hopkins) during the 2012 lockout.
 

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Sounds like Justin Schultz is retiring after a brief stint in the Swiss league. Doesn't seem that long ago that I thought about flying to Oklahoma City to catch the Oilers prospects (Schultz, Hall, Eberle, Nugent-Hopkins) during the 2012 lockout.
Craziest part about his career to me will always be 16-17 when Letang went down and he just played at 1D level until they won the cup. Unsung hero of that Cup run

Next year he went back to a solid 2nd pair level guy and never reached that 1D level again from what I remember.
 

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Trouba in and Fowler out is an interesting overhaul for the Ducks’ defense.

Not the choice I would make, but interesting nonetheless.
Trouba seems like he’s old, but he’s actually two years younger than Fowler, who has been with the NHL Ducks for almost 15 years right out of the draft.
 

Triumph

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I don’t get this trade.

For whom? Anaheim was always going to move on from Fowler once they acquired Trouba, I think they took a lower return in order to just move him now. St. Louis has been giving Ryan Suter 22 minutes a game which seems pretty unsustainable given that he's 40 years old, so this should put him back on the 3rd pair which is where he was signed to play.
 

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For whom? Anaheim was always going to move on from Fowler once they acquired Trouba, I think they took a lower return in order to just move him now. St. Louis has been giving Ryan Suter 22 minutes a game which seems pretty unsustainable given that he's 40 years old, so this should put him back on the 3rd pair which is where he was signed to play.
I guess they think Trouba will be highly motivated to prove the Rags fan wrong and will be committed to the area since Irvine has a lot of good medical facilities for his wife?

I don't know what's going on with Fowler but he might just be done with losing and maybe he's just not gonna be defensively stable enough for Anaheim to turn the corner.
 

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For whom? Anaheim was always going to move on from Fowler once they acquired Trouba, I think they took a lower return in order to just move him now. St. Louis has been giving Ryan Suter 22 minutes a game which seems pretty unsustainable given that he's 40 years old, so this should put him back on the 3rd pair which is where he was signed to play.

This. Also Fowler was a UFA with 4 team trade list so he could veto almost any trade.
 

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Stan Fischler is really living his youth when he posts those Igor tweets. Sounds like stuff written by a younger adult at the very oldest. Notice how I said living his youth and not reliving it. There was no Twitter or internet when Stan was a young adult. :laugh:
 
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Brodeur

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Trouba in and Fowler out is an interesting overhaul for the Ducks’ defense.

Not the choice I would make, but interesting nonetheless.

Ducks had too many (puckmoving) LHD and had been sitting a guy like Pavel Mintyukov recently. Trouba isn't worth his 8 mil cap hit, but their top RHD was Radko Gudas. Probably not too many useful RHD on the trade market for Anaheim to get right now.

At least in theory they've balanced out their D.

LHD: Dumoulin-Mintyukov-LaCombe-Zellweger
RHD: Trouba-Gudas-Helleson
 
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