Around the NHL 2024-25 regular season Part II

I liked Utah Elk. Rocky Mountain Elk is Utahs state mammal. Utah Elk sounds good when you say it out loud. Can make a nice logo out of it and mascot etc. It's much better than any of the final 3 they have to me.
I actually like that name out of the choices given. I saw a mock up of the mammoth jersey and admit it does look good but I find it amazing they are painted into a corner because they didn’t think yeti would be a problem.

Agree with someone else coyotes would’ve been ideal they should’ve just given Phoenix a fresh start if they ever get one

Missed opportunity for NHL scheduling matinee weekend games while NFL goers silent waiting for Super Bowl weekend. No metro teams playing Friday or Saturday night.
Don’t get me started with the schedule! The nhl should right now be entering in the divisional/conference play months. Drive home the playoff push

MAF getting his 'flowers' in Montreal was pretty cool.
That was very cool with the handshake line. It’s a shame broduer didn’t get a proper send off your party his fault for that though.
 
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Yeah, the Flyers freed up a bunch of money for next year with this deal, I feel like they should've gotten more out of it but sometimes you have to get the coach's whipping boys out of town.
Kuz is definitely not a Torts guy, but he does speak Russian and that will help him with coaching Michkov by his own admission, so it's a wash.
 
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Kuz is definitely not a Torts guy, but he does speak Russian and that will help him with coaching Michkov by his own admission, so it's a wash.

Only thing that can backfire is if Kuz is really good with Michkov and they're forced to basically sign him to a deal that's on par with Farabee because you're not really gaining anything in the trade in that way. Flyers fans are losing their minds on the main board but I really don't get it tbh lol
 
Only thing that can backfire is if Kuz is really good with Michkov and they're forced to basically sign him to a deal that's on par with Farabee because you're not really gaining anything in the trade in that way. Flyers fans are losing their minds on the main board but I really don't get it tbh lol

These are two guys who would've been thought to be major pieces in the rebuild and they were tossed away for two guys who probably aren't in Philadelphia in 2 years and a 2nd round pick.
 
Jesus lol



I'd say we can all stop complaining about the cap except you know players' salaries will go up about as fast as the cap does


That Bratt deal is going to look AMAZING

These are two guys who would've been thought to be major pieces in the rebuild and they were tossed away for two guys who probably aren't in Philadelphia in 2 years and a 2nd round pick.

Ya, I definitely get it but Frost/Farabee aren't insane needle movers imo to care about. They might be major pieces on Philly but Philly also just needs to get better overall on the forward side. Again, if Briere does something with that cap space then it's a great move. If he doesn't, it's bad.
 
The cap's not going to 113 million in 3 years. Hopefully the other GMs think it will and hopefully Fitz doesn't, but it's not going there. It's an estimate based on the economy as of a few months ago.
 
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Ya, I definitely get it but Frost/Farabee aren't insane needle movers imo to care about. They might be major pieces on Philly but Philly also just needs to get better overall on the forward side. Again, if Briere does something with that cap space then it's a great move. If he doesn't, it's bad.

You're speaking in a forum that devoted several angry pages to Alex Urbom being lost to waivers. It sucks to lose competent players and get very little for them, even if this is the right long-term move, I can see why it doesn't look like it in Philadelphia. Briere sold low and got a bad return.
 
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I'd say we can all stop complaining about the cap except you know players' salaries will go up about as fast as the cap does

If this is accurate just assume even half way it’s true then the devils 1000000% have to win with the core locked into these cheap deals. Big jump like that gives teams with their cores locked cheap deals have a massive advantage
 
You're speaking in a forum that devoted several angry pages to Alex Urbom being lost to waivers. It sucks to lose competent players and get very little for them, even if this is the right long-term move, I can see why it doesn't look like it in Philadelphia. Briere sold low and got a bad return.

I mean I do get it but I also understand Briere not hitching his ride to guys that his coaching staff doesn't like + middling players who they drafted in the first round. It's understandable for them to be mad how they turned out. The Flyers also probably realize they're going nowhere with that forward core and need to improve the roster. FWIW, I think Briere has done a decent job in the draft but he sucks everywhere else.

If this is accurate just assume even half way it’s true then the devils 1000000% have to win with the core locked into these cheap deals. Big jump like that gives teams with their cores locked cheap deals have a massive advantage

Still got the entire actual core locked up for another 2 years and Jack/Bratt/Timo are locked till 2030. Good chance they splurge on some UFA's for depth purposes to surround the core with or they legit could look to pick teams off that are going to be in cap hell by being dumb
 
The cap's not going to 113 million in 3 years. Hopefully the other GMs think it will and hopefully Fitz doesn't, but it's not going there. It's an estimate based on the economy as of a few months ago.
Why cant it? I know the NBA makes a ton more but theyve risen 50m in five years including covid! The NHL cant recover from a stagnant cap for half a decade and raise it by 25 in three years?

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Why cant it? I know the NBA makes a ton more but theyve risen 50m in five years including covid! The NHL cant recover from a stagnant cap for half a decade and raise it by 25 in three years?

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I do not think the economy will sustain an NHL that makes the projected revenues in the coming years, it has nothing to do with the NHL as a whole. If the economy stays afloat, those projections make a lot of sense.
 
I do not think the economy will sustain an NHL that makes the projected revenues in the coming years, it has nothing to do with the NHL as a whole. If the economy stays afloat, those projections make a lot of sense.
Pretty hard to talk about the economy without mentioning a certain name. It borders on politics and if what I am about to post is against the rules I hope the Mods delete it. It's the only thing I'm going to post on this topic.

With the 25% tariffs levied on Canadian and Mexican products today, that will hurt the US economy, not help it. Furthermore, if the future sees other promised tariffs take place, I think your take on the cap raises will be correct.
 
Nooooooooooooot touching this one. All these fears are valid and it's a worthwhile discussion to have somewhere else, but I get enough anxiety by turning on an app or website outside of a select few.
Wasn’t the NHL artificially suppressing the cap for a year or two to help thr escrow get paid off and it shoukd be higher right now? Maybe I misunderstood that. I’d expect a $93-94 million cap for next season but we will see.
Yeah, and they just dealt with that. I think that's what's causing this proposed leap.
 
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The league isn't just making up those numbers, they wouldn't talk about it if they didn't feel pretty good about them. I assume some part of that is predictable increases from the Canadian tv deals, which are expected to amount to something like 400M+ per year
 
The value of sports franchises have risen extraordinarily over the last ten to twenty year and I assume this applies to Hockey teams as well as baseball, football and basketball. And I wonder whether the computation of the cap captures this added value to ownership. It's substantial, potentially in the hundreds of millions if not billions depending on the franchise or the sport when a team you've bought for 500 million is suddenly worth a billion when you sell it.

If not, if the Cap is a cash flow analysis and relies only on revenues, the entire salary Cap thing is a steal for ownership, who see their costs controlled and completely predictable, while there capital profits go through the roof.

I also have also never understood how hockey, which is to some degree carried by the same cable channels and web providers as other pro sports, is so devalued compared to the others. Yes it's a smaller market game with Canadian teams, but I'm paying one fee for say MSG or ESPN or NESN that's got basketball too, and I'm not watching basketball and am buying the channel as part of a package. And with MSG the cable provider actually owns the franchises. So how do they make out controlling player costs in that model? How does the team revenue model even relate to what they are doing?

I have a feeling it's a scam. A useful one. Maybe a necessary one but not necessarily THIS one. There has to be a better way an economist or sports marketing specialist and an accountant could skin these cats.
 
In the uncharted waters this country is currently sailing in, the economy going up or staying steady is a big question mark

Im with Tri. I don’t see these numbers coming to fruition. The market will be driven by ‘fear’ the next few years
 

“It feels like I have no role or purpose with this team. I’m kinda dying inside being here.”


WOOF. And this is a guy who was a ranger in multiple eras of the team.
 

“It feels like I have no role or purpose with this team. I’m kinda dying inside being here.”


WOOF. And this is a guy who was a ranger in multiple eras of the team.
Bolded is a mood.

Seriously though, Drury must be thankful for Rutherford opening his mouth and taking the focus off of his own poisonous locker room environment.
 
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The league isn't just making up those numbers, they wouldn't talk about it if they didn't feel pretty good about them. I assume some part of that is predictable increases from the Canadian tv deals, which are expected to amount to something like 400M+ per year

I direct your attention to this projection. The league is in its own bubble.
 

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