Around the NHL — Episode XLXVII

GCK

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Petterson would be a great target for Detroit, Buffalo, Montreal, Nashville, Anaheim or Calgary.
 

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Not sure where to put this, but the team had their best December since 2007-08. 9-3-1 and it dug us out of a hole we were in at the end of November. Haven't been this excited for the holidays to end just so I can watch the Sens again in ages.

Good times.
 
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None of the Habs prospects outside Demidov worry me. Lots of support players.

Suzuki and Caufield are support players? Slafkovsky? Laine? What about Hutson and Guhle? Plus their pool is actually ranked around #2, similar to what our pool was... It starts to sound like just homer takes non-sense

Staios knocked it out of the park. Our 3 biggest roster needs were goaltending - check, fixing our D corps - check, veteran support players - check. Our bottom 6 is much better, our cap is mostly fixed and the coaching staff is NHL calibre.

I think a lot of fans are missing what Staios is looking to accomplish. He wants a team that can win 2-1 not a team that needs 5 goals to win.

Just more major homer takes. I understand the NEED to feel good after 7 super crappy years but knocked it out of the park? We paid 12th OA pick + 2nd + 2nd to get 34 y/o #4 D-man Jensen who is having a bounce back season (Thank Alfie), it is NOT a win in any way, shape or form. We knocked it out of the park for veteran support players? lol what is this?

The reasons whey we're finally not eliminated by Christmas is because :

- Tim Stutzle, Thomas Chabot, Josh Norris and Drake Batherson are finally back to 100% (or close enough)

- We might finally have NHL coaching

- We have stability in goal when Ullmark is healthy

It is certainly not because we signed Mike Amadio, Noah Gregor and Nick Cousins :laugh:

Amadio is a far better hockey player than Mathieu Joseph.

:laugh: Weren't you among those who were giving me a run for my money regarding Chris freaking Tierney? lmao I know hockey when I see it. Joseph is younger and has more career points in less games and has nearly 500 more PK minutes too. Just the eye test make this pretty evident too. Have you not watched Joseph last year vs Amadio this year?
 
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Lol Bruins two points up on Tampa with 5 (yes FIVE) more games played.


Tampa could easily win the division once they catch up in GP.
Tampa has the easiest remaining schedule of any team according to both Tankathon and Power Ranking Guru. I could easily see them winning the division.

That said, Florida, Toronto and the Sens all have relatively easy schedules too. Boston though has a really tough schedule, so they could drop out.
 

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Suzuki and Caufield are support players? Slafkovsky? Laine? What about Hutson and Guhle? Plus their pool is actually ranked around #2, similar to what our pool was... It starts to sound like just homer takes non-sense



Just more major homer takes. I understand the NEED to feel good after 7 super crappy years but knocked it out of the park? We paid 12th OA pick + 2nd + 2nd to get 34 y/o #4 D-man Jensen who is having a bounce back season (Thank Alfie), it is NOT a win in any way, shape or form. We knocked it out of the park for veteran support players? lol what is this?

The reasons whey we're finally not eliminated by Christmas is because :

- Tim Stutzle, Thomas Chabot, Josh Norris and Drake Batherson are finally back to 100% (or close enough)

- We might finally have NHL coaching

- We have stability in goal when Ullmark is healthy

It is certainly not because we signed Mike Amadio, Noah Gregor and Nick Cousins :laugh:



:laugh: Weren't you among those who were giving me a run for my money regarding Chris freaking Tierney? lmao I know hockey when I see it. Joseph is younger and has more career points in less games and has nearly 500 more PK minutes too. Just the eye test make this pretty evident too. Have you not watched Joseph last year vs Amadio this year?
Caulfield and Laine are redundant but whatever, they along with Suzuki are not prospects so that’s a strange flex.

Slaf is middling, Guhle would be on our 3rd pair (and he’s past prospect status).

I know you love Hutson but he’s a PP specialist until proven otherwise. Liability defensively.

Tierney was my personal whipping boy after his first 5 shifts as a Sen so that’s wasn’t me.

Gregor, Amadio and Cousins bring an absolute ton of professionalism to our team and that is obvious to me at least.

Joseph vs Amadio is like a hot girl who hates sex vs a true goer, I’ll take the reliable one in that scenario every time.
 
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Nah, there's plenty of smart people here who are not afraid to discuss things without bias.

Just you inserting some french like if it was some kind of insult shows how WEAK you are. Just continue to do your own thing and let others have their freedom of speech, ok?

GO HABS GO! They just took the lead 3-2 (for all the dummies out there)
You ok?
 

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Caulfield and Laine are redundant but whatever, they along with Suzuki are not prospects so that’s a strange flex.

Slaf is middling, Guhle would be on our 3rd pair (and he’s past prospect status).

I know you love Hutson but he’s a PP specialist until proven otherwise. Liability defensively.

Tierney was my personal whipping boy after his first 5 shifts as a Sen so that’s wasn’t me.

Gregor, Amadio and Cousins bring an absolute ton of professionalism to our team and that is obvious to me at least.

Joseph vs Amadio is like a hot girl who hates sex vs a true goer, I’ll take the reliable one in that scenario every time.
Hutson literally leads the Habs in even strength time. Guhle would probably be our 3rd best defender and only plays on the third pair here because Chabot and Sandy are ahead of them

Mate I hate the Habs and hope they continue to suck, but there's quite a bit of homerism there.
 

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lmao I know hockey when I see it. Joseph is younger and has more career points in less games and has nearly 500 more PK minutes too. Just the eye test make this pretty evident too. Have you not watched Joseph last year vs Amadio this year?
Joseph has been a healthy scratch this year and for good reason, Amadio has simply been the better player. It's too bad Pinto was struggling so much to start the year, I think Amadio would have a lot more points if his center hadn't been struggling so hard. Their underlying numbers were pretty good.
 

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Can we stop talking about the Habs lol? it's criminal here :laugh:

Caulfield and Laine are redundant but whatever, they along with Suzuki are not prospects so that’s a strange flex.

Redundant as to having more than 1 good goal scorer? I'd take Caufield on the Sens right now.

And why would it be only about their prospects? You initially quoted my post #2,059 where I was talking about the 7 other Atlantic teams and their outlook for 2025-2030

I said the Habs would be our #2 competitor after the Sabres for teams looking to climb in the Atlantic

Slaf is middling, Guhle would be on our 3rd pair (and he’s past prospect status).

Slafkovský is still 20 y/o, he has more points than Brady had at that age.

And Guhle on our 3rd pairing? Really? Travis Hamonic plays on our 1st pairing

I know you love Hutson but he’s a PP specialist until proven otherwise. Liability defensively.

Tierney was my personal whipping boy after his first 5 shifts as a Sen so that’s wasn’t me.

Gregor, Amadio and Cousins bring an absolute ton of professionalism to our team and that is obvious to me at least.

Joseph vs Amadio is like a hot girl who hates sex vs a true goer, I’ll take the reliable one in that scenario every time.

I love Hutson? lol why? I have to unfortunately recognize that he is a high end talent and much better than people expected. He's not a PP specialist at all, he drives the play at ES like crazy and is also much better defensively than you seem to think.

It's crazy but talking WITHOUT BIAS here attracts all kind of judgement, insults and assumptions. Crazy how immature people are (not talking about you but some trolling comments that got deleted)

I have nothing against Gregor, Amadio and Cousins but not sure why Amadio make much more than the 2 others.

And wtf about that last sentence, lol
 
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Hutson literally leads the Habs in even strength time. Guhle would probably be our 3rd best defender and only plays on the third pair here because Chabot and Sandy are ahead of them

Mate I hate the Habs and hope they continue to suck, but there's quite a bit of homerism there.
Guhle is behind Sanderson Chabot and Jensen imo. I think he's going to be a good defensive Dman (already is pretty good) but if I'm trying to win today (not thinking long term) there's no way he's ahead of Jensen.

Hutson may lead them in 5v5 time, but he's also leading among reg D in xGA/60 and not in a good way, he's got a lot of work to do on the defensive side of the puck.
 

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It would be Norris + Yakemchuk which doesn't work for me just to have the luxury to pay EP 3 M$ per season than Stutzle.


Brady and Josh have been close friends for years…. I would think twice before trading away Josh, because I remember what happened when one of Chara’s close friends was traded.
 
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Lol Bruins two points up on Tampa with 5 (yes FIVE) more games played.


Tampa could easily win the division once they catch up in GP.
Good point,
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Guhle is behind Sanderson Chabot and Jensen imo. I think he's going to be a good defensive Dman (already is pretty good) but if I'm trying to win today (not thinking long term) there's no way he's ahead of Jensen.
Agree Guhlie is behind Jensen
Hutson may lead them in 5v5 time, but he's also leading among reg D in xGA/60 and not in a good way, he's got a lot of work to do on the defensive side of the puck.
Ya he is currently a liability in his own zone, and the stats like you mentioned agree, but I guess he’s still young, but not sure how good he can be in the future defensively, as a Smurf.

Good offensively minded though.
 

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Guhle is behind Sanderson Chabot and Jensen imo. I think he's going to be a good defensive Dman (already is pretty good) but if I'm trying to win today (not thinking long term) there's no way he's ahead of Jensen.

Hutson may lead them in 5v5 time, but he's also leading among reg D in xGA/60 and not in a good way, he's got a lot of work to do on the defensive side of the puck.
I think within another season Guhle will be better than Jensen, but Jensen has nearly a decade of experience that's developed his excellent IQ. Jensen chemistry with Chabot is next level, but if Guhle was an RD, he's not playing on the 3rd pairing on our roster (and not just because of Zub's injury).

Hutson is pretty bad defensively, but I'd say it's homerism to call him a PP specialist. He leads his dcore in even strength points with 15 (more than Chabot who leads us). St.Louis is giving him a bit of rope to learn the game, but its not like he's Tony D level bad.
 

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Hutson literally leads the Habs in even strength time. Guhle would probably be our 3rd best defender and only plays on the third pair here because Chabot and Sandy are ahead of them

Mate I hate the Habs and hope they continue to suck, but there's quite a bit of homerism there.
Guhle would be our 3rd or 4th D but we have Sanderson and Chabot as you said. Hutson is living the life of an offensive D to hasn’t yet been asked to defend. I don’t think Hutson can pull it off on a competent team.
 

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Meanwhile the Western Conference still has 3 teams that haven’t hit 30 points.

It would be nice if we had a few duds in our conference.
Hopefully Detroit, MTL, Buffalo, NYI and NYR don't hit 40 points until like February

Guhle would be our 3rd or 4th D but we have Sanderson and Chabot as you said. Hutson is living the life of an offensive D to hasn’t yet been asked to defend. I don’t think Hutson can pull it off on a competent team.
As much as I don't want to wish ill on a player, I sincerely hope Hutson is just a flash in the pan this year. Would love for the Habs rebuild to take forever.
 

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Agree Guhlie is behind Jensen

Ya he is currently a liability in his own zone, and the stats like you mentioned agree, but I guess he’s still young, but not sure how good he can be in the future defensively, as a Smurf.

Good offensively minded though.
Hutson is still really young, I agree. He's got work to do but can definitely become a very good player down the road if he can shore up his defensive play. You don't need to be big to play sound positionally, have a good active stick, and make good decisions, and with the right partner he doesn't need to be physical.

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