Around the NHL — Episode XLXVII

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Pretty much, only person canucks would probably look at is brady, which you guys would probably pass

No offense, but that would be the steal of the century for Vancouver.

 

[JD1]

Q&A: Canucks GM Patrik Allvin expects more from top players in 2025

In 2024, the Canucks have given their fans much to be thankful for — but, they've also failed many nights to play to their standard. Iain MacIntyre sits down with GM Patrik Allvin to discuss why the team has struggled with consistency and reflect on the season thus far.

www.sportsnet.ca

This is absolutely blowing up in Vancouver right now by the way.
Looks like Pettersson is available
Allvin went on blast basically, Not sure what you guys would offer, or how seriously you would be interested, He would obviously need a Haul.
But, just thought I would share and get your guys opinions!
Not everyday a 90+ Center with great Defensive abilities becomes available.

Thoughts?

Why would any team want to take on a contract where there's open public talk about the need to work harder? He can be a terrific player but I don't see any reason to import trouble

 

[NyQuil]

Why would any team want to take on a contract where there's open public talk about the need to work harder? He can be a terrific player but I don't see any reason to import trouble

I mean:

1. If you do want to trade him, you’re tanking his trade value publicly to some extent.

2. If you don’t want to trade him, I’m not sure telling the world that he isn’t mature enough is the right approach.

Maybe the GM should next ask Petey to rank his teammates in order of annoyance and then read the list out in the locker room.

 

[Blotto71]

Q&A: Canucks GM Patrik Allvin expects more from top players in 2025

In 2024, the Canucks have given their fans much to be thankful for — but, they've also failed many nights to play to their standard. Iain MacIntyre sits down with GM Patrik Allvin to discuss why the team has struggled with consistency and reflect on the season thus far.

www.sportsnet.ca

This is absolutely blowing up in Vancouver right now by the way.
Looks like Pettersson is available
Allvin went on blast basically, Not sure what you guys would offer, or how seriously you would be interested, He would obviously need a Haul.
But, just thought I would share and get your guys opinions!
Not everyday a 90+ Center with great Defensive abilities becomes available.

Thoughts?

If he's moved, the return will assuredly be under-whelming.

He's in year 1 of a mega deal and has reverted right back to pre-extension production (on pace for 68pts). Your GM is completely justified in calling him out.

 

[Wallet Inspector]

Pettersson has played wing in the past, he could look good on Stu's wing, but yeah, that contract is a pretty big risk, not to mention the Canucks would probably want Yakemchuk in a trade for him.

 

[BigRig4]

Pettersson has played wing in the past, he could look good on Stu's wing, but yeah, that contract is a pretty big risk, not to mention the Canucks would probably want Yakemchuk in a trade for him.

I feel like it’s just too rich for a guy who doesn’t show up for half the games. If he’s hot then yeah he’s totally worth it, but I wouldn’t wanna gamble on a guy no-showing at that price tag.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Pettersson isn't getting full value, These trades never work out that way.

If we trade for him, it would be something like Norris+Forsberg or Norris+Zub as the base. Then add picks and prospects on our end. Zub has been hurt a lot the last two seasons, and we have been winning without him, so he would be the most logical money out piece to make it cap neutral.

What I think the trade might be in actuality is something like Pettersson for Lafreniere+Lindgren+Chytil. Lafreniere's former agent is the A-GM in Vancouver. Vancouver needs short-term help on defense due to injuries. The Rangers will want to move out more money with term (Chytil).

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Pettersson has played wing in the past, he could look good on Stu's wing, but yeah, that contract is a pretty big risk, not to mention the Canucks would probably want Yakemchuk in a trade for him.

They aren't getting that kind of piece in this situation.

Lafreniere, Norris, etc - that is the kind of headline piece I would expect. The trade thread will be four dozen pages of people trashing Vancouver, but the reality is that players in these situations never get full value.

He has one of the largest cap hits in the league on a full term extension that also has a NMC. He's played badly after being signed, and is advertised as damaged goods in terms of being immature in the room.

The only teams who can trade for him will be teams with other damaged good that they can send the other way.

It will either be another damaged goods player with a long-term contract, or it will be a completely unremarkable package of picks+prospects from a team like Chicago or Utah who was able to leverage their cap space into acquiring him without assets going the other way.

 

[JD1]

They aren't getting that kind of piece in this situation.

Lafreniere, Norris, etc - that is the kind of headline piece I would expect. The trade thread will be four dozen pages of people trashing Vancouver, but the reality is that players in these situations never get full value.

He has one of the largest cap hits in the league on a full term extension that also has a NMC. He's played badly after being signed, and is advertised as damaged goods in terms of being immature in the room.

The only teams who can trade for him will be teams with other damaged good that they can send the other way.

It will either be another damaged goods player with a long-term contract, or it will be a completely unremarkable package of picks+prospects from a team like Chicago or Utah who was able to leverage their cap space into acquiring him without assets going the other way.

OK. Damaged goods. I'll buy that. Why would we want to move out any solid pieces for damaged goods? I'd think his only value is a damaged goods for damaged goods trade. We don't have any damaged goods

 

[Wallet Inspector]

They aren't getting that kind of piece in this situation.

Lafreniere, Norris, etc - that is the kind of headline piece I would expect. The trade thread will be four dozen pages of people trashing Vancouver, but the reality is that players in these situations never get full value.

He has one of the largest cap hits in the league on a full term extension that also has a NMC. He's played badly after being signed, and is advertised as damaged goods in terms of being immature in the room.

The only teams who can trade for him will be teams with other damaged good that they can send the other way.

It will either be another damaged goods player with a long-term contract, or it will be a completely unremarkable package of picks+prospects from a team like Chicago or Utah who was able to leverage their cap space into acquiring him without assets going the other way.

I like Yakemchuk but he's far from proven, asking for him in a trade for a 90-100 point player(when he's actually playing at that level) isn't unreasonable.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Petterson could be that high end player that rarely becomes available. Could explode in the right situation. Some concerning aspects to it all, but the team that goes there could end up looking pretty smart in the end. Maybe Norris+Forsberg as a base for salary works, but not sure we have the + to make it happen and make sense. Wouldn't want Yak included.

 

[JD1]

Petterson could be that high end player that rarely becomes available. Could explode in the right situation. Some concerning aspects to it all, but the team that goes there could end up looking pretty smart in the end. Maybe Norris+Forsberg as a base for salary works, but not sure we have the + to make it happen and make sense. Wouldn't want Yak included.

Geez, this scenario creates interesting perspectives

Forsberg I'd get rid of for a bag of pucks.

But we've got a pretty tight room it seems and Norris is part of that. It seems like his injury troubles are resolved. Contract wise, with the cap rising, 8M for a 30G C that's strong defensively, PKs and has good face-off numbers is a bargain. Why would you want to move an asset for controversy?

In addition to that, Brady Tkachuk is an animal and I can't wait to see him in the playoffs. I wouldn't want to take our captain and heart and soul and instill in him that the Senators have no loyalty

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

I like Yakemchuk but he's far from proven, asking for him in a trade for a 90-100 point player(when he's actually playing at that level) isn't unreasonable.

I don't think it is unreasonable, but it never works out that way in these kind of situations.

They are trading him in season with a massive cap hit. The market is going to be limited, and they are going to have to make more of a hockey trade with 9/10 teams.

Very few teams are in a position where they want to blow it up midseason to acquire a player.

They are selling low in the most difficult market possible.

 

[HSF]

Petterson could be that high end player that rarely becomes available. Could explode in the right situation. Some concerning aspects to it all, but the team that goes there could end up looking pretty smart in the end. Maybe Norris+Forsberg as a base for salary works, but not sure we have the + to make it happen and make sense. Wouldn't want Yak included.

Petersson would be game changing he will get a solid return

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Petterson could be that high end player that rarely becomes available. Could explode in the right situation. Some concerning aspects to it all, but the team that goes there could end up looking pretty smart in the end. Maybe Norris+Forsberg as a base for salary works, but not sure we have the + to make it happen and make sense. Wouldn't want Yak included.

I don't think we have the plus to make it happen.

Norris+Zub makes more sense for both sides, because we have been winning without Zub, and we would need to create cap flexibility beyond this season if we are going to add Pettersson. If Zub is ready to return, Vancouver needs a defenseman due to their injuries.

The problem is, we don't have any enticing future assets. We cannot give up a 1st, because that then we won't have a first for two years, and we would risk handing out an unprotected pick because it is unlikely that Vancouver would allow us to protect the pick until 2027. If we move Zub, we need to keep Yakemchuk because with Petterssn's salary and a defenseman moved out, we will need Yak to come in on his ELC and play in the NHL for us.

I think that the Rangers make the most sense because they could dangle Lafreniere and otherwise seem open to moving any piece on their roster right now since their season is over already. We aren't in that position. We are in the middle of a streak that could possibly see us making the playoffs for the first time in almost a decade. We can't tear down mid season to fit in an 11M+ player.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Geez, this scenario creates interesting perspectives

Forsberg I'd get rid of for a bag of pucks.

But we've got a pretty tight room it seems and Norris is part of that. It seems like his injury troubles are resolved. Contract wise, with the cap rising, 8M for a 30G C that's strong defensively, PKs and has good face-off numbers is a bargain. Why would you want to move an asset for controversy?

In addition to that, Brady Tkachuk is an animal and I can't wait to see him in the playoffs. I wouldn't want to take our captain and heart and soul and instill in him that the Senators have no loyalty

It has the potential to disrupt the room, but I think if he came in and performed to the level he's shown he can bring, all would be forgotten pretty quickly. Rarely do these guys come available, especially before they're starting to have age concerns. Would make me nervous for the reasons you point out, but for the right deal I think I'd still move forward. I just think he has that high end ceiling that Norris doesn't have, even though I do really like Norris.

 

[BigRig4]

Call me crazy but I think Miller makes more sense for us. Something like Norris for Miller. Sure the age is a worry but our window is essentially until Ullmark falls off and he’s already 31.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

I don't think we have the plus to make it happen.

Norris+Zub makes more sense for both sides, because we have been winning without Zub, and we would need to create cap flexibility beyond this season if we are going to add Pettersson. If Zub is ready to return, Vancouver needs a defenseman due to their injuries.

The problem is, we don't have any enticing future assets. We cannot give up a 1st, because that then we won't have a first for two years, and we would risk handing out an unprotected pick because it is unlikely that Vancouver would allow us to protect the pick until 2027. If we move Zub, we need to keep Yakemchuk because with Petterssn's salary and a defenseman moved out, we will need Yak to come in on his ELC and play in the NHL for us.

I think that the Rangers make the most sense because they could dangle Lafreniere and otherwise seem open to moving any piece on their roster right now since their season is over already. We aren't in that position. We are in the middle of a streak that could possibly see us making the playoffs for the first time in almost a decade. We can't tear down mid season to fit in an 11M+ player.

I agree we don't have the + to make it happen. I would think that a Petey trade might be signalling a slight reset and maybe they're not as concerned about getting D back for this season. I assumed we were spitballing on an in season tradem so I'd think Ottawa would be looking to do it with this year in mind and not wanting to move Zub quite yet. They've been winning without him but if they wanted to go on a run, an upgrade on Hammer would still be needed. I'd think more like a JBD going the other way for now for them to tread water and then Zub could potentially be moved in the off season for salary relief for Ottawa.

I don't see it happening, but Norris+Forsberg+JBD as the base makes sense imo. They could deal Lankonen separately for value at the deadline with Demko back.

 

[HSF]

I don't think we have the plus to make it happen.

Norris+Zub makes more sense for both sides, because we have been winning without Zub, and we would need to create cap flexibility beyond this season if we are going to add Pettersson. If Zub is ready to return, Vancouver needs a defenseman due to their injuries.

The problem is, we don't have any enticing future assets. We cannot give up a 1st, because that then we won't have a first for two years, and we would risk handing out an unprotected pick because it is unlikely that Vancouver would allow us to protect the pick until 2027. If we move Zub, we need to keep Yakemchuk because with Petterssn's salary and a defenseman moved out, we will need Yak to come in on his ELC and play in the NHL for us.

I think that the Rangers make the most sense because they could dangle Lafreniere and otherwise seem open to moving any piece on their roster right now since their season is over already. We aren't in that position. We are in the middle of a streak that could possibly see us making the playoffs for the first time in almost a decade. We can't tear down mid season to fit in an 11M+ player.

Petersson is probably an offseason move.

Wouldn't be surprised if Canes revisit trading Necas which would be a win win for both if he still wants to go elsewhere or if they flop in the playoffs.

They def aren't taking Norris and Zub for Petersson. That's their stuztle.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Call me crazy but I think Miller makes more sense for us. Something like Norris for Miller. Sure the age is a worry but our window is essentially until Ullmark falls off and he’s already 31.

Personally, I think Miller has more of a potential to disrupt the room than Petey would and wouldn't want to go there, but I'm not even sure what that's based on other than appearances of him being the difficult one.

 

[Big Muddy]

$11.6 m cap hit won’t be easy to move if its an in-season trade.

 

[HSF]

Call me crazy but I think Miller makes more sense for us. Something like Norris for Miller. Sure the age is a worry but our window is essentially until Ullmark falls off and he’s already 31.

Miller makes sense if he was younger and wasn't a headcase

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Maybe Nashville would make sense?

They don't have a big fish they could swap, but they have multiple first round picks. They clearly want to make moves. They could send Vancouver a few over the hill veteran roster players like Ryan O'Reilly and then 2-3 major assets.

Buffalo could make sense as well. They have multiple high end young stars who have term at big money, and do not have active trade protection. They would probably want to move Cozens. Add in Byram, and while that isn't full value for Pettersson at his best, that would be an intriguing package given the situation.

 

[Mr Hat]

Chychrun flying against the Bruins and scores a nice PPG. Wish he played like that here.

 

[SpezDispenser]

Chychrun flying against the Bruins and scores a nice PPG. Wish he played like that here.

Jensen prevents way more goals than Chychrun, so it likely evens out