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Can’t imagine we have a chance in hell against either of these teams. They’d skate circles around us before we even get out of our zone. Igor can do only so much.
 
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Rangers were a much faster team than the kings in 2014. Faster doesn’t mean better.
They also look more creative and talented than we are. Makar is better than Fox. McK and Rantanen are better than Z and Bread (at least these playoffs). Their third pairing is more threatening than ours. We’ll have to collapse the net and cover up all rebounds, hoping Igor stays steady on the seemingly endless breakaways he’ll face.
 

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Colorado has 2.59xG.

That means Igor has only given up 1, at most 2.... maybe even none.

Gretzky telling the truth
 
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They also look more creative and talented than we are. Makar is better than Fox. McK and Rantanen are better than Z and Bread (at least these playoffs). Their third pairing is more threatening than ours. We’ll have to collapse the net and cover up all rebounds, hoping Igor stays steady on the seemingly endless breakaways he’ll face.
Makar is not better than Fox. Fox can actually shut down players. And don’t forget Trouba is the one who knocked McK on his ass. They’re top 4 isn’t better than ours. And Our kid line will eat Jack Johnson alive. Oh yeah and best goalie in the world.
 
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Obviously using the terms pretty loosely (and including goaltending in defense), but I love that the these conference finals are essentially determining the best defense and offense in the world.

Unstoppable force vs. Immovable object for the cup
 

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Makar is not better than Fox. Fox can actually shut down players. And don’t forget Trouba is the one who knocked McK on his ass. They’re top 4 isn’t better than ours. And Our kid line will eat Jack Johnson alive. Oh yeah and best goalie in the world.
Let’s amicably agree to disagree then. I hope you’re right. I’d love to be proven wrong and see NYR win the whole thing.
 

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Makar is not better than Fox. Fox can actually shut down players. And don’t forget Trouba is the one who knocked McK on his ass. They’re top 4 isn’t better than ours. And Our kid line will eat Jack Johnson alive. Oh yeah and best goalie in the world.
Makar is significantly more physically talented than Fox. He is faster, has better hands, and a better shot. In spite of all of that, he isn’t a much better player than Fox, if at all. I understand why some people can’t see that.
 
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They also look more creative and talented than we are. Makar is better than Fox. McK and Rantanen are better than Z and Bread (at least these playoffs). Their third pairing is more threatening than ours. We’ll have to collapse the net and cover up all rebounds, hoping Igor stays steady on the seemingly endless breakaways he’ll face.

Fox is better defensively and has the same points per game as Makar these playoffs while playing on a lower scoring team. Zibanejad has a better points per game than MacKinnon. Man, people really lose all perspective because of a few highlight reels. My reaction is the exact opposite of yours. Both of these teams are so sloppy and horrific defensively and in net that I think whichever team comes out of the East literally humiliates them.
 

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Fox is better defensively and has the same points per game as Makar these playoffs while playing on a lower scoring team. Zibanejad has a better points per game than MacKinnon. Man, people really lose all perspective because of a few highlight reels. My reaction is the exact opposite of yours. Both of these teams are so sloppy and horrific defensively and in net that I think whichever team comes out of the East literally humiliates them.
No way we catch the Avs when they turn on the jets. We gave away seemingly infinite odd-man rushes and more than a few breakaways against the Penguins and Carolina — both substantially slower and, I’d argue, less talented than the Avs. I think we can handle the Oilers in 6. The Avs are the ones that worry me.
 

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Let’s amicably agree to disagree then. I hope you’re right. I’d love to be proven wrong and see NYR win the whole thing.
If I remember correctly @Machinehead has some charts showing how God tier fox it

Fox is better defensively and has the same points per game as Makar these playoffs while playing on a lower scoring team. Zibanejad has a better points per game than MacKinnon. Man, people really lose all perspective because of a few highlight reels. My reaction is the exact opposite of yours. Both of these teams are so sloppy and horrific defensively and in net that I think whichever team comes out of the East literally humiliates them.
Me personally.. there is nothing better than a power house offense getting shut down hard.
 
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