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kingsholygrail said:
If Vegas loses, they need Nashville to lose out and they have to win their final two games to get in.
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The interesting thing about Vegas (as someone else pointed out) is they will have to pull their goalie if tied toward end of reg. Edit: actually that may not be true, they could take their chances in OT.. but they may need the regulation wins for tie breakers
 
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AbsentMojo said:
The interesting thing about Vegas (as someone else pointed out) is they will have to pull their goalie if tied toward end of reg. Edit: actually that may not be true, they could take their chances in OT.. but they may need the regulation wins for tie breakers
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Yeah, they're in do or die mode 100% now.
 
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AbsentMojo said:
The interesting thing about Vegas (as someone else pointed out) is they will have to pull their goalie if tied toward end of reg. Edit: actually that may not be true, they could take their chances in OT.. but they may need the regulation wins for tie breakers
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I mentioned what you said about pulling the goalie in another thread, tonight could be a time where you see it, but it also might not be.

If Vegas gets to OT tonight they officially can't be eliminated from wildcard contention even if they lose (although it would be probably be a sub 5% chance) They would ofcourse be eliminated from catching the Kings with an OTL. Since OT is basically a crap shoot they'd have a 50% chance of being alive in the Pacific as well if they won in OT.

If Vegas is hypothetically tied tonight in the final 90 seconds or so does it make sense to pull the goalie and risk it ending tonight or is it optimal to try and get to OT and take the coin flip?

If Vegas wins in regulation they would be 1 point back of Dallas and 4 points back of the Kings with both tiebreakers. If this happens and they went 2-0 in their final 2 they would make the playoffs if Dallas got 3 or less points or the Kings got 0 points.

If Vegas wins in OT they would be 2 points back of Dallas, and 4 back of the Kings while again holding both tiebreakers. They would need Dallas to lose in regulation one of their final 2 to Anaheim or Arizona or have the Kings lose their final 2 (in addition to winning out themselves)

If Vegas loses in OT they would be 4 points back of Dallas and eliminated from catching the Kings. So they would need Dallas to lose out and them to win out.

If Vegas loses in regulation they are eliminated from the playoffs completely.

I can see the arguments for both strategies, but I think Vegas would be better off getting it to OT and then hoping they win and then get some help from either Anaheim, Arizona, Seattle or Vancouver (as awful as that sounds for them).
 
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kingsholygrail said:
If Vegas loses, they need Nashville to lose out and they have to win their final two games to get in.
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Correct me if I am wrong but I don't think this is correct.

If Vegas loses in regulation tonight they are eliminated from the playoffs.

They would be 6 points back of LA, 5 points back of Dallas (with 2 games left) and even if Nashville loses in regulation to Calgary they would be 4 points back of them, they could catch them in RW at 35 but would be 1 back of them in ROW and thus would lose out even if they tied Nashville in points.
 
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Even with a regulation win tonight, Vegas best chance is Nashville. Dallas finishes with a pretty easy Dorks/Coyotes duo. Nothing is a gimmie, but with both games being at home they should beat them both.
 
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Also, while I think we all hope that Dallas takes care of them tonight, a Vegas regulation win would mean that both Dallas and Vegas would have to win out and the Kings would have to lose twice in regulation for both teams to pass us. Obviously the by far worst case scenario is a Vegas OT-win.

Also if that awful scenario were to play out the Kings would also make the playoffs with 96 points if Nashville loses their final 3 games (Calgary, Colorado, Arizona). The last one might be difficult but it is atleast a road back to back.
 
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Herby said:
I mentioned what you said about pulling the goalie in another thread, tonight could be a time where you see it, but it also might not be.

If Vegas gets to OT tonight they officially can't be eliminated from wildcard contention even if they lose (although it would be probably be a sub 5% chance) They would ofcourse be eliminated from catching the Kings with an OTL. Since OT is basically a crap shoot they'd have a 50% chance of being alive in the Pacific as well if they won in OT.

If Vegas is hypothetically tied tonight in the final 90 seconds or so does it make sense to pull the goalie and risk it ending tonight or is it optimal to try and get to OT and take the coin flip?

If Vegas wins in regulation they would be 1 point back of Dallas and 4 points back of the Kings with both tiebreakers. If this happens and they went 2-0 in their final 2 they would make the playoffs if Dallas got 3 or less points or the Kings got 0 points.

If Vegas wins in OT they would be 2 points back of Dallas, and 4 back of the Kings while again holding both tiebreakers. They would need Dallas to lose in regulation one of their final 2 to Anaheim or Arizona or have the Kings lose their final 2 (in addition to winning out themselves)

If Vegas loses in OT they would be 4 points back of Dallas and eliminated from catching the Kings. So they would need Dallas to lose out and them to win out.

If Vegas loses in regulation they are eliminated from the playoffs completely.

I can see the arguments for both strategies, but I think Vegas would be better off getting it to OT and then hoping they win and then get some help from either Anaheim, Arizona, Seattle or Vancouver (as awful as that sounds for them).
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haha thats very thorough analysis.. interesting to break it all down. I would say in the end, it prob is less risky for them to head to OT if tied than to pull goalie.. though it would be cool to see that happen - would be very rare scenario.. Do u recall this happening before?
 
AbsentMojo said:
haha thats very thorough analysis.. interesting to break it all down. I would say in the end, it prob is less risky for them to head to OT if tied than to pull goalie.. though it would be cool to see that happen - would be very rare scenario.. Do u recall this happening before?
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The first year they had the 4 on 4 OT (before shootout), I think it was Edmonton or Vancouver needed 2 points instead of 1 and pulled the goalie in OT, they lost the game and ended up with 0 points.
 
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DoktorJeep said:
The Knights are the epitome of Vegas the town. Awesome for a quick couple of days, but awful to be around past 48 hours. And outside a couple of places, you encounter the bottom of humanity.
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Man, I think you underestimate the impact of taking a little nap, having some steak and eggs (protein), and getting your second wind can have on the amount of time one can hit it hard in Vegas.
 
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KINGS17 said:
Man, I think you underestimate the impact of taking a little nap, having some steak and eggs (protein), and getting your second wind can have on the amount of time one can hit it hard in Vegas.
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What i remember the most is completely losing track of day and night in the casino. Then going to breakfast and playing keno whatever hour it was.
 
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AbsentMojo said:
The interesting thing about Vegas (as someone else pointed out) is they will have to pull their goalie if tied toward end of reg. Edit: actually that may not be true, they could take their chances in OT.. but they may need the regulation wins for tie breakers
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Vegas gets a slight break on the salary cap when they pull the goalie when tied in regulation, right?
 
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Mark Stone doesn't look anything like the player he used to be.

5 more years after this one at 9.5M per season.
 
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