Around the League Thread part V

[johnjm22]

^Projected short handed goals for the upcoming season.

Thousand Oaks represent.

 

[kilowatt]

^Projected short handed goals for the upcoming season.

Thousand Oaks represent.

TO resident checking in

 

[Lt Dan]

TO resident checking in

 

[kingsholygrail]

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I want that shirt.

 

[Lt Dan]

I want that shirt.

Here you go bro

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

Hey look, the Kings aren't the only team that sucks at drafting and player development:

Five Wasted Drafts Still Haunting the Blackhawks - Bleacher Nation

The Chicago Blackhawks are in a terrible position right now, rebuilding (again) after a horrible season, and it's not that difficult to understand how they got here: The Draft.

www.bleachernation.com

 

[AbsentMojo]

Go to a PL game live. The atmosphere is incredible, it changes the perspective of the game… Hockey can only dream of it. Hockey rinks are closer to a library in atmosphere. Don’t get me wrong hockey as a sport is #1 for me but the crowds suck.

I noticed that Blues and Colorado fans last season sang songs during the games not prompted by the organ or PA - something borrowed from soccer which I think is cool. I've never seen that at staples. The problem with USA teams/venues is the amount of die hard fans per capita is much less than say the Canadian market. On USA hockey telecasts vs Canadian you can tell the difference - in US its dummed down and you hear them selling the game as much as announcing it esp on national telecasts. All tolled, there isnt the same amount of passion for the game as there is for soccer from its die hard fans.

 

[johnjm22]

Chicago signs JJ.

They're trying to make the roster as bad as possible.

 

[Ollie Weeks]

Good for him. Get that money.

 

[johnjm22]

Good for him. Get that money.

Agree. Considering what he's been through, I bet he's saving as much as possible.

He's still getting paid from the Pittsburgh buy out also. So that's good. He'll be getting about 5M from the Pens over the next 4 years.

 

[KingLB]

Chicago signs JJ.

They're trying to make the roster as bad as possible.

Can someone explain these a little better for me. I thought WAR was wins above replacement. Thus anything positive says you are “better than average” as the replacement is “average”?

 

[YP44]

Can someone explain these a little better for me. I thought WAR was wins above replacement. Thus anything positive says you are “better than average” as the replacement is “average”?

Looking forward to a response. I thought anything over 50% was positive.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Can someone explain these a little better for me. I thought WAR was wins above replacement. Thus anything positive says you are “better than average” as the replacement is “average”?

Looking forward to a response. I thought anything over 50% was positive.

It's a percentile ranking amongst peers of that position over 3 years.

"positive" will kind of depend on how you view that player, ie depth vs. a 1st pairing dman.

JJ being at 3% makes him one of the worst WAR dmen in the league.

 

[Chazz Reinhold]

It's a percentile ranking amongst peers of that position over 3 years.

"positive" will kind of depend on how you view that player, ie depth vs. a 1st pairing dman.

JJ being at 3% makes him one of the worst WAR dmen in the league.

Exactly. That means 97% of defensemen in the league have higher ratings in that metric than he does.

 

[Schrute farms]

I'm guessing it's a MLB vs. NHL difference in how WAR is shown. Baseball ranges from -100 to 100+ with zero (0) being right in the middle as the "average" player. Whereas NHL WAR seems to be 0-100% range with 50% being the middle/average player.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I'm guessing it's a MLB vs. NHL difference in how WAR is shown. Baseball ranges from -100 to 100+ with zero (0) being right in the middle as the "average" player. Whereas NHL WAR seems to be 0-100% range with 50% being the middle/average player.

Hockey has that as well, it's just straight WAR, guys can be negative. This one in particular though is a percentile ranking among peers--so not 'raw' wins above replacement but actually how does one's wins-above-replacement compare to others in their position.

 

[Schrute farms]

Hockey has that as well, it's just straight WAR, guys can be negative. This one in particular though is a percentile ranking among peers--so not 'raw' wins above replacement but actually how does one's wins-above-replacement compare to others in their position.

Ah, interesting and good to know. I never understood these hockey player card summaries before. I was lost when someone would post it. But now i think i understand finally. I'm guessing all the other percentages on the card (PK, G/60, finishing, etc.) are the same -- 0-100% percentage on the scale for where you stand against the rest of the league?
This 0-100% showing is much easier to understand where player A stands and performs relative to the rest of the league (compared to the raw WAR).

 

[YP44]

So now knowing this if a d-man is a true top 2 then they should be 67% or higher. I know that dumbs it down too much but would make sense in a peer comparison.

 

[KingLB]

Glad I wasn’t the only one trying to fake it.

 

[KingsHockey24]

Just had an hour + long interview to be an airplane mechanic; think I got the job too.

 

[King'sPawn]

Ah, interesting and good to know. I never understood these hockey player card summaries before. I was lost when someone would post it. But now i think i understand finally. I'm guessing all the other percentages on the card (PK, G/60, finishing, etc.) are the same -- 0-100% percentage on the scale for where you stand against the rest of the league?
This 0-100% showing is much easier to understand where player A stands and performs relative to the rest of the league (compared to the raw WAR).

Yes.

Think of the SATs. You get a raw score for your math and verbal scores. Then you can be placed in a percentile based on how well you did in each aspect.

So you could get a 500 for math and be in the 10%ile and 790 in verbal and be in the 99%ile.

Replace all the analytics and compare it to various aptitude tests and you see the percentile is relative to the rest of the pool. Percentile is an easier read and comparison than raw scores.

 

[Lt Dan]

Just had an hour + long interview to be an airplane mechanic; think I got the job too.

Fingers Crossed

When you get the job: Just remember rule 1

 

[redcard]

So now knowing this if a d-man is a true top 2 then they should be 67% or higher. I know that dumbs it down too much but would make sense in a peer comparison.

Depends if you're in the camp that believes that by definition there are 64 Top 2 Dmen around the league or if players need to meet specific archetypes to qualify as a Top 2 Dman even if that creates a league wide shortage.

Either way, if you account for 7th Defensemen and injury call ups it should actually be higher than 67%.

 

[YP44]

Depends if you're in the camp that believes that by definition there are 64 Top 2 Dmen around the league or if players need to meet specific archetypes to qualify as a Top 2 Dman even if that creates a league wide shortage.

Either way, if you account for 7th Defensemen and injury call ups it should actually be higher.

Ya figured it was a dumbed down way. But if you are in top thirs (67% or higher) but only playing middle pair minutes that would mean someone is playing above their dept then.

 

[redcard]

Ya figured it was a dumbed down way. But if you are in top thirs (67% or higher) but only playing middle pair minutes that would mean someone is playing above their dept then.

Which I'm sure is quite common, given that there are plenty of good and bad teams around the league. A 3rd/4th defenseman on one team might be better than several other teams #2.