Around the League Thread part V

[YP44]

Lets just get rid of offsides...who cares if a team cherry picks or how the enter the zone. If the goal is more offense why has this not been tried? Would open shit up.

 

[Steve Zissou]

No kidding. He was spot on saying you still need to play defence, especially calling out the Avs player who thought it was a good idea to jump into the play up 7-3 and it burned them. The Oilers weren't that far off from tying it in the final minute.

Shades of round 2:

Oilers 6
Flames 9

 

[YP44]

Shades of round 2:

Oilers 6
Flames 9

I read last night that there have only been 19 NHL playoff games in history where each team had more than 6 goals...the Oilers have been in 2 this year.
Pretty crazy.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

IMO he's right.

The whole thing was a complete overreaction to an absurd Duchene offsides play; most of these things are pulling a goal back over inches tthat don't actually affect the play. The linesmen are by and large awesome, just let it be.

 

[Steve Zissou]

IMO he's right.

The whole thing was a complete overreaction to an absurd Duchene offsides play; most of these things are pulling a goal back over inches tthat don't actually affect the play. The linesmen are by and large awesome, just let it be.

Amen.

Moreover, a fantastic, hard-working goal could be like 2-3 minutes later in a shift and we are going back to the very beginning of the zone pressure to enlarge the tip of a blade under the microscope? I thought the NHL was trying to increase scoring...

 

[YP44]

IMO he's right.

The whole thing was a complete overreaction to an absurd Duchene offsides play; most of these things are pulling a goal back over inches tthat don't actually affect the play. The linesmen are by and large awesome, just let it be.

at the least put a time delay on the review. If it takes that long or you have to look at that closely it goes against the spirit of the rule. Call it a goal and move on

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

If possession rules don't apply then Makar is attempting to play a loose puck because he isn't touching it and possession allows for control without contact.

No, you can have possession but not control........he 100% has possession, and it doesn't matter, he doesn't touch the puck until everyone is on-side

 

[King'sPawn]

IMO he's right.

The whole thing was a complete overreaction to an absurd Duchene offsides play; most of these things are pulling a goal back over inches tthat don't actually affect the play. The linesmen are by and large awesome, just let it be.

I'd rather them get rid of offsides than get rid of offsides reviews.

Just like how costly it was for the Kings to have a goal scored against them when the puck clearly hit the net.

Get it right, or make it a non-issue by eliminating the rule.

 

[YP44]

I'd rather them get rid of offsides than get rid of offsides reviews.

Just like how costly it was for the Kings to have a goal scored against them when the puck clearly hit the net.

Get it right, or make it a non-issue by eliminating the rule.

I have yet to hear a reasonable debate for keeping offsides. Only thing I can think of is team with possession may constantly take the puck out of the zone to keep possession like in 3 on 3......you know what I just killed my own thought.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I have yet to hear a reasonable debate for keeping offsides. Only thing I can think of is team with possession may constantly take the puck out of the zone to keep possession like in 3 on 3......you know what I just killed my own thought.

I think of high levels of roller hockey and it's much like NHL 3v3, if the other team doesn't want you to have the puck, you may never touch it. They won't even shoot it. It sounds great in theory because of cherry picking and creating space/stretching ice but in practice it makes for a slower game rather than a faster one, and a slower game means smarter decisions in possession.

 

[KingsFan7824]

Lets just get rid of offsides...who cares if a team cherry picks or how the enter the zone. If the goal is more offense why has this not been tried? Would open shit up.

That still leaves 10 players on the ice, and no coach is going to let one guy on the other team just roam free.

IMO he's right.

The whole thing was a complete overreaction to an absurd Duchene offsides play; most of these things are pulling a goal back over inches tthat don't actually affect the play. The linesmen are by and large awesome, just let it be.

That toothpaste is already out of the tube. No real need for instant replay, the refs by and large always caught what needed catching before video. But replay isn't going anywhere. Function creep. Offside calls are now too important to coaches. All you can do now is prevent every penalty call from being reviewed.

 

[kilowatt]

while i totally agree, it has never ever ever been called like that

are we gonna start reviewing to see if the puck is actually a millimeter off the tape instead of touching it now? this review shit has totally lost the plot

I 100% agree with this. If we need 4K cameras at all angles of the ice to determine if the puck was offside, the whole f***ing thing is moot. At this point, we'd be better off putting sensors inside the puck and having offsides be determined programmatically. The interpretations of the rules are as varied as the calls themselves.

 

[AbsentMojo]

When the Great One speaks, you listen.

Nice mild rant by the GOAT..

 

[AbsentMojo]

I was gonna say this is how I've understood the rule since I was a teenager 25 years ago...did it change along the way somewhere?

I can't count how many times i lightly pushed the puck into the zone and let it float until my guy touched up then went after it so I don't understand what I'm missing here other than an opportunity for Edmonton media to prove the world is out to get them

Maybe it's jsut that people don't do it as much anymore since standing up at the line is so popular?

I think its because delayed offside are usually initiated by a different player throwing the puck in the zone like from the redline than someone carrying it in and pushing it forward.. it threw me off when i first saw it - i had to think about it before it clicked.

 

[kilowatt]

Hey, Kopitar won the Messier leadership award! That's neat.

 

[WHOneedsSOX]

Vasy looking a little shaky.

 

[unicornpig]

nice to see a coach playing his kids unlike our buffoon of a coach

 

[Zero Pucks Given]

Huh. Vasi doesn't look so unbeatable all of a sudden.

 

[Fishhead]

They should change offsides into soccer rules. Two guys between you and the net, usually a goalie. The chaos would be hilarious, all the linesmen would probably quit.

I can see arguments of why offsides could change, but really, what's the point? We'd just be watching videos of something else instead of guys dragging their feet across the blue line. I'm all for automated offsides, just have a bunch of lights around the glass turn red to kill the play. That way we can yell at our own guys for blowing it instead of yelling at a ref.

 

[Schmooley]

nice to see a coach playing his kids unlike our buffoon of a coach

Yea they gave them the last two seasons to learn and make mistakes and kept them in the lineup. Now they are reaping the rewards. But hey Kopi won the Messier award for starting youth hockey leagues around the world. The kids need to learn off the ice here.

 

[DoktorJeep]

Rangers are playing well, but you expect the rust is going to come off the lightning next game.

 

[AbsentMojo]

6 to 2 Smithalesky

 

[kingsfan28]

Look at those time on ice stats. No wonder they got scored on moments later.

 

[Zero Pucks Given]

Well that was brutal.

 

[Bandit]

Amen.

Moreover, a fantastic, hard-working goal could be like 2-3 minutes later in a shift and we are going back to the very beginning of the zone pressure to enlarge the tip of a blade under the microscope? I thought the NHL was trying to increase scoring...

Enlarging the tip under a microscope? Have you been talking to my wife?