Around the League Thread part V

[SettlementRichie10]

Yeah my moneys on a Tampa 3-peat too

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

What's crazy is some other teams have started to match TBL in the talent/offense arms race. The x factor this time around is Vasilevsky might be the best goalie of the entire generation and a top-10 G historically when all is said and done while most of the other teams have shooter tutors in net.

 

[kingsfan28]

And why did Gaudreau skate to the point away from 97 when he couldve prevented that move to the middle

He did a fly by expecting the puck to go right to him. Had he challenged the oiler player along the boards, he'd have probably chipped it out and had a breakaway. Just a selfish, lazy play by him. Outside of game 1, the Flames top line , and all the points they scored in the regular season, didn't mean jack. Tkchuk was invisible and played like he was afraid to take a bad penalty and never engaged at all as the series went along.

 

[kingsfan28]

The Oilers averaged 5 goals per game against Sutter’s Flames in 5 games. Even with the blowout wins in the first round, the Kings held them to an average of 3.8 goals per game, sans Doughty.

Goal scoring was and has been a big problem for this team, and clearly they can’t go blow to blow against the heavyweights of this league, but I see that admitting that a Todd McLellan coached team put up a bigger fight than a Darryl Sutter coached team is a difficult reality for some fans to accept.

I was not impressed at all with this version of Sutter playoff hockey. He looked like he made no effort to stop their top line. Mcdavid pretty much went untouched during that series, he had so much time and space. Nobody on the Flames challenged him, even Tkchuck just sat back and let him walk all over him. You'd think at some point he'd have thrown a dirty crosscheck or something. He was soft. Moore and Anderson went right after him, and most night did a good job at containing him when they could. Anderson frustrated him in every game at some point, and i don't think anyone on the Flames did that at all. A healthy Kings team would've taken down the Oiler is 6, I have no doubt in my mind.

 

[kingsfan28]

Calgary just got robbed by the bozos at NHL sit room

yeah, that's a bad call. How could you say he kicking it in when it was going in regardless of his skate touching it. There's no way he's trying to kick that in while being pushed like that. Hell, we've all seen guys turn their skate to put it in and it's counted.

 

[FSL KINGS]

yeah, that's a bad call. How could you say he kicking it in when it was going in regardless of his skate touching it. There's no way he's trying to kick that in while being pushed like that. Hell, we've all seen guys turn their skate to put it in and it's counted.

The inside skate kicked forward in an unnatural direction. If he just blew a tire & went into the net it probably counts. Either way Flames managed 1 win & weren't taking the series.

 

[KingsHockey24]

Can't expect to win with Trevor Lewis being a regular in your line-up in the year 2022.

 

[BigKing]

The Oilers averaged 5 goals per game against Sutter’s Flames in 5 games. Even with the blowout wins in the first round, the Kings held them to an average of 3.8 goals per game, sans Doughty.

Goal scoring was and has been a big problem for this team, and clearly they can’t go blow to blow against the heavyweights of this league, but I see that admitting that a Todd McLellan coached team put up a bigger fight than a Darryl Sutter coached team is a difficult reality for some fans to accept.

Who can't admit that the Kings put up a bigger fight? They went seven games versus five so there isn't any argument to be made. My point was that the Kings were better equipped for the Oilers with Danault and even old Kopitar versus seeing Lil Johnny going head-to-head with 97. Sutter didn't put on a coaching clinic by any means but he also didn't get any help from his goaltender.

Edmonton looks like a team that could finally breathe after winning a playoff round for the first time in forever. Lot more confidence in their game right now. Easy to be confident when you've got two guys that are pretty much good for a high quality chance every shift. I still don't think they can beat a team that has depth and a real goalie but that might only be Tampa at this point.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Who can't admit that the Kings put up a bigger fight? They went seven games versus five so there isn't any argument to be made. My point was that the Kings were better equipped for the Oilers with Danault and even old Kopitar versus seeing Lil Johnny going head-to-head with 97. Sutter didn't put on a coaching clinic by any means but he also didn't get any help from his goaltender.

Edmonton looks like a team that could finally breathe after winning a playoff round for the first time in forever. Lot more confidence in their game right now. Easy to be confident when you've got two guys that are pretty much good for a high quality chance every shift. I still don't think they can beat a team that has depth and a real goalie but that might only be Tampa at this point.

Oh I'm not calling you out or anything, but there are other Sutter lovebirds that Sol insinuated who can't admit to that fact.

Sutter got no help from his goaltending, but the Flames also didn't play anywhere close to the Kings. That one guy who suggested the only difference between the Cup run Kings and the Flames was in goaltending was way off base.

Now the Flames are headed to a summer of uncertainty with the pending UFA status of Johnny Gaudreau, Matthew Tkachuk is a RFA, as well as Andrew Mangiapane who is coming off a 35 goal season. I can see that team having a steep drop off next season.

Can't expect to win with Trevor Lewis being a regular in your line-up in the year 2022.

Or Milan Lucic, who was completely worthless in the playoffs. Too slow to keep up with the competition, and he was not some physical force out there. Evander Kane was right when he mocked him, the Oilers welcomed more shifts from Lucic.

 

[BringTheReign]

Calgary's power play was somehow worse than the Kings during the playoffs, operating at a rate of 12.2%. Their PK was considerably better than the Kings and their pathetic 63.2% penalty killing unit.

The Oilers also walked all over Calgary in four straight games after they got embarrassed in Game 1. They came back from multi-goal deficits as well. Similar to what we witnessed in round one, the Flames couldn't match up against Edmonton's top players.

Wasn't Florida's power play worse than ours against the Capitals and Lightning? Weird year.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Wasn't Florida's power play worse than ours against the Capitals and Lightning? Weird year.

Florida's PP percentage was... 3.2%. They were 5th overall during the regular season at 24.4%.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Yeah

The inside skate kicked forward in an unnatural direction. If he just blew a tire & went into the net it probably counts. Either way Flames managed 1 win & weren't taking the series.

Yeah if he would have gone with the “whoops slide tackle” there it probably would have counted since he was engaged.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I can’t wait to see this.

 

[Fripp]

That whole Flames team looked like they were afraid of physical contact. Rolled.

 

[KINGS17]

Who can't admit that the Kings put up a bigger fight? They went seven games versus five so there isn't any argument to be made. My point was that the Kings were better equipped for the Oilers with Danault and even old Kopitar versus seeing Lil Johnny going head-to-head with 97. Sutter didn't put on a coaching clinic by any means but he also didn't get any help from his goaltender.

Edmonton looks like a team that could finally breathe after winning a playoff round for the first time in forever. Lot more confidence in their game right now. Easy to be confident when you've got two guys that are pretty much good for a high quality chance every shift. I still don't think they can beat a team that has depth and a real goalie but that might only be Tampa at this point.

I thought Calgary would be far more physical in that series. They just weren't. Terrible goaltending and not being physical enough were Calgary's undoing in that series.

I still don't think Edmonton is a team that is put together very well, but I am willing to be convinced if they don't get throttled in the next round.

 

[Rumpelstiltskin]

Or Milan Lucic, who was completely worthless in the playoffs. Too slow to keep up with the competition, and he was not some physical force out there.

 

[Sol]

I don't know how you can call anyone lazy when you can't even be bothered to put together a coherent argument. Sutter is a Jack Adams finalist this year and you are saying this season is an example of him being a bad coach, it's just absolute nonsense.

I’m doing this for charity for you because I know how difficult it is for you to scroll

“Sutter should probably self-reflect on some of his decisions too. Like not line matching or game planning against the best player in the world for 3 f***ing games, or keeping his ice cold starter in till the end”

Great coach though huh junior? Todd outcoached Sutter with all of these points in mind.

I thought Calgary would be far more physical in that series. They just weren't. Terrible goaltending and not being physical enough were Calgary's undoing in that series.

I still don't think Edmonton is a team that is put together very well, but I am willing to be convinced if they don't get throttled in the next round.

All you need is McDavid. They are a one man team and that one f***ing man is unbeatable.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I can’t wait to see this.

Holy f***, I can't beleive I didn't even know about this. Chills. Gonna be amazing.

 

[crassbonanza]

I’m doing this for charity for you because I know how difficult it is for you to scroll

“Sutter should probably self-reflect on some of his decisions too. Like not line matching or game planning against the best player in the world for 3 f***ing games, or keeping his ice cold starter in till the end”

Great coach though huh junior? Todd outcoached Sutter with all of these points in mind.

Haha, you really are a tool aren't you? Picking out one comment from a message board immediately following a playoff loss. Have you noticed that this board was wide ranging opinions on just about everything Kings related? I can find you someone who sings TMac's praises and someone else who wants him fired immediately. You just have some weird hate boner for Sutter, but I won't even bother discussing this with you anymore when a random fan comment is your entire premise for calling Sutter a bad coach. Multiple cup wins? Multiple division banners? Finalist for the Jack Adams? Nah, none of that matter when some rando on the Flames board says he is bad.

 

[kingsfan28]

Oh JMFJ....

 

[SettlementRichie10]

I never considered Sutter some brilliant Xs and Os strategist. He’s great at motivating players, and has a comforting, even keeled attitude for otherwise unstable locker rooms. But he’s usually not going to out-chess another coach mid-game, and he’s always going to have a shelf life.

Mcdavid is just unstoppable this season. It’s going to be very interesting to see how well Hedman/Vasilevsky do against him if those teams make the finals.

And ofc full marks to the Kings who took these jokers to 7 games without Doughty while the Flames go down in, well…

 

[kingsfan28]

I never considered Sutter some brilliant Xs and Os strategist. He’s great at motivating players, and has a comforting, even keeled attitude for otherwise unstable locker rooms. But he’s usually not going to out-chess another coach mid-game, and he’s always going to have a shelf life.

Mcdavid is just unstoppable this season. It’s going to be very interesting to see how well Hedman/Vasilevsky do against him if those teams make the finals.

And ofc full marks to the Kings who took these jokers to 7 games without Doughty while the Flames go down in, well…

The Stars took them to 7 which shows just how much of pretenders the Flames were. Dallas only scored 15 goals is the series, the same amount as the Flames.

 

[Sol]

Haha, you really are a tool aren't you? Picking out one comment from a message board immediately following a playoff loss. Have you noticed that this board was wide ranging opinions on just about everything Kings related? I can find you someone who sings TMac's praises and someone else who wants him fired immediately. You just have some weird hate boner for Sutter, but I won't even bother discussing this with you anymore when a random fan comment is your entire premise for calling Sutter a bad coach. Multiple cup wins? Multiple division banners? Finalist for the Jack Adams? Nah, none of that matter when some rando on the Flames board says he is bad.

Game 5 vs Game 7 lmaoooo bad coach now for sure

 

[ScoreZeGoals]

WOW

Credit to the Blues, that was much more of a series than I was expecting

 

[AbsentMojo]

Colorado with clutch win on the road to set up what I think most of us wanted to see