Around the League Thread | November Rain

sandwichbird2023

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Really strange timing that I speculated on this late last night and now I'm seeing local media (and Friedman apparently) speculating the same thing.

Obviously it was just me connecting dots and I'm not remotely implying that I'm the reason people are thinking this, but the timing makes me look a hell of a lot more prescient than I could ever claim to be.
Feels like "reporters" and "journalists" sometimes read HF for their "thoughts" and "ideas" lol. Bob McKenzie used to post here, I'm sure lots of other lurk around.


Rough start for Askarov.
 

sandwichbird2023

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There was always a question of the offensive upside on Pod.
Pod had less offensive upside than Boldly and Caufield, but was seen as a safer player with higher floor. But at the draft there were still reports that believe he can contribute offensively at the NHL level, but that part of his game never developed further.
 
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Pod had less offensive upside than Boldly and Caufield, but was seen as a safer player with higher floor. But at the draft there were still reports that believe he can contribute offensively at the NHL level, but that part of his game never developed further.
I’m not sure any part of his game really developed further. He’s about the same player he was when he took his first NHL shift.
 

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I’m not sure any part of his game really developed further. He’s about the same player he was when he took his first NHL shift.
If I remember correctly, he wasn't getting much ice time in his D+1 and D+2 seasons in the KHL, 2 crucial development years lost. He probably still won't be a top line scorer in the NHL either way, but maybe he could've been an acceptable middle 6'er.
 

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If I remember correctly, he wasn't getting much ice time in his D+1 and D+2 seasons in the KHL, 2 crucial development years lost. He probably still won't be a top line scorer in the NHL either way, but maybe he could've been an acceptable middle 6'er.
That’s the nhl development system. Team doesn’t have control over that. Reliant on other organizations to do that, who have no connection with the nhl club until the kid gets to their A club or nhl roster.
MLB who have a larger farm system gets their kids in within a year of their draft since all players can re-enter the draft if they do not sign within the year.
 

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Yeah, the two players this board was mostly debating for that pick (Boldy and Caufield) are both on pace for 45+ goals this year.

That pick hurts.
To be fair, the majority of this board wanted Zegras to fall and would have taken him over Boldy or Caulfield. The debate between Boldy ajf Caulfield largely assumed Zegras was gone.
 

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To be fair, the majority of this board wanted Zegras to fall and would have taken him over Boldy or Caulfield. The debate between Boldy ajf Caulfield largely assumed Zegras was gone.
Cosentino on SN really loved Pod. Others, more wary of his offensive upside. He had the widest gap between scouts from what I can recall.
 

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Brodin-Faber-Middleton-Spurgeon could be the best top 4 defensive group in the NHL as well. Kind of built like our bluelines of the past. No true superstar but a bunch of fist pairing to #3 types.

i haven’t paid attention to the rest of the league much in the last few years but good god jared spurgeon is still in the nhl?
 

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Yeah, the two players this board was mostly debating for that pick (Boldy and Caufield) are both on pace for 45+ goals this year.

That pick hurts.
Wasn't Newhook really popular on here, and I think some were really high on Krebs. I remember Pod was not even really discussed because no one really thought the Canucks would pick him. Just looking at that draft, Harley would fix a lot of our problems.
 

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Zegras probably develops a lot better in a different environment, he ended up getting probably the worst possible situation for someone like him getting worshipped and overhyped while having zero defensive accountability and bad/non-existent coaching, but yeah I was devastated that he went one pick before us.

Also we have to stop pining over Zad. He's a 3M player based solely on his actual on ice skill. You pay a premium for everything else that he brings like size, physicality, swagger, etc but there's a limit to what that premium could be.

Time to find the next great target. I firmly believe that 99% of the time pining over losing someone to a UFA bidding war is a signal of mgmt failing to identify a reasonable replacement rather than the failure being not deciding to win the UFA bidding war.
 

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He's only 34. Same draft as Myers.
Yep, a bunch of that draft class from 2008 still around. At varying levels of success.

Doughty, Bogosian, Pietroangelo, Schenn, Myers, Karlsson, Carlson, Josi, Hamonic, Scandella, Brodie, etc. 2008 would have been Tanev's first time as a draft eligible.
 

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