Around the League Thread | Conference Final Edition | We Are All Kevin Bieksa

[crazychimp]

I love how CBC was all over the Canucks’ ass when they won games while getting outshot, and tonight Simpsons says “Glen Sather said it best, stats are for losers”.

To be fair Oilers have put up more shots in other games this is the only one they have played Tocchet hockey.

 

[I am toxic]

I know what you are thinking.

Forsling in the SCF once again. 5th round draft pick.

eff me

 

[garbageteam]

Dallas just sucked this series considering how they were ranked and rated.

Why did we fear them at all when there were people here fantasizing about a matchup after being up 3-2 to the OIlers, I've no idea. I said IF, big IF, we made it past the Oilers we have every damn business to believe we can beat the Stars, yet people were really ready to wave the white towel if they made it to the WCF and say "welp, we did it, we can get swept by the Stars now". Ridiculous.

Dallas was a hugely overrated team, HF loves to think some US based teams are juggernauts based solely off of some of their players (when even the players are vastly overrated).

I will say, if by some alternate universe timeline we actually had made it past the Oilers *and* the Stars, I would finally accept it and say "Ok, the Panthers will likely cook us". But absolutely no one in the west scared me at the start of the playoffs at all. This team could've taken anyone in the conference, it's Florida, New York and Boston that had me worried in April.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Dallas just sucked this series considering how they were ranked and rated.

Why did we fear them at all when there were people here fantasizing about a matchup after being up 3-2 to the OIlers, I've no idea. I said IF, big IF, we made it past the Oilers we have every damn business to believe we can beat the Stars, yet people were really ready to wave the white towel if they made it to the WCF and say "welp, we did it, we can get swept by the Stars now". Ridiculous.

Dallas was a hugely overrated team, HF loves to think some US based teams are juggernauts based solely off of some of their players (when even the players are vastly overrated).

I will say, if by some alternate universe timeline we actually had made it past the Oilers *and* the Stars, I would finally accept it and say "Ok, the Panthers will likely cook us". But absolutely no one in the west scared me at the start of the playoffs at all. This team could've taken anyone in the conference, it's Florida, New York and Boston that had me worried in April.

I actually thought the Canucks matched up quite well with Dallas (especially compared to Vegas and Colorado). I also thought Dallas would do well against Edmonton. Oh well.

 

[crazychimp]

God, were we this obnoxious in 2011?

Probably.

We were but we definitely embraced it just like Oiler fans are right now. We had a more hated team though too with the likes of Kesler, Burrows and Lappierre. I can’t say I really dislike any player on the Oilers the only thing I dislike is the McDavid diving. Hyman at times seems the same way. Incredible players that don’t need to do that shit. I really like Draisitl as a player seems to really bring it when it counts.

 

[Wisp]

we were obnoxious but we were embracing the hate. they desperately want to be the heroic good guys.

I am so unimpressed with this Oilers team, I hope the Panthers can end this farce.

 

[crazychimp]

we were obnoxious but we were embracing the hate. they desperately want to be the heroic good guys.

I am so unimpressed with this Oilers team, I hope the Panthers can end this farce.

Yeah this whole Boston pizza campaign as “Canada’s team” is f***ing weird.

 

[Jyrki21]

It's funny outside of Edmonton, no one in Canada is cheering for them. Certainly not Flames or Vancouver fans.

Meh, I feel comfortable guessing that everyone else in the country is cheering for them, even as I hate that supremely. I've been relieved to see very few open displays of Oiler fandom here in Ottawa (to my surprise), but this is the type of place that absolutely laps up the Canada's Team garbage, and the prairie teams are always the most revered for their Canadian pureness.

HNIC has always been in awe of the Oilers and their 'importance', even when they were bad (they have had a steady stream of Alberta guys and ex-Oilers doing broadcasts for years), and I think that seeps into the public's consciousness. They treat Toronto like the older sibling with expectations who needs to be responsible, and Edmonton as the spoiled younger sibling they gush about to their friends.

 

[sting101]

Florida Panthers hold a curse on Vancouver

1 Tkachuk we should have drafted
2 Reinhart from NVan we should have traded for him when he came available
3 Luongo are we still paying his cap circumvention penalty
4 Bennett we should have traded for. Wanted him badly then for cheap
5 Montour same thing
6 OEL....only 7 more years on the books. Could have had Guenther
7 Forsling.....ouch

Ballard Booth

a lot of what could have been when you look at those jerseys

 

[crazychimp]

Florida Panthers hold a curse on Vancouver

1 Tkachuk we should have drafted
2 Reinhart from NVan we should have traded for him when he came available
3 Luongo are we still paying his cap circumvention penalty
4 Bennett we should have traded for. Wanted him badly then for cheap
5 Montour same thing
6 OEL....only 7 more years on the books. Could have had Guenther
7 Forsling.....ouch

Ballard Booth

a lot of what could have been when you look at those jerseys

How do you think Flames fans feel lol

 

[HelloCookie]

All this canucks could've, should've, would've when we didn't, and I getcha but look at the positives:

Corey perry's 4th final defeat in 5 years is possible to witness in real time in Oilers jersey

 

[Kryten]

What are the odds Luongos wife travels with him to Edmonton for games to support her husband? Not good

 

[valkynax]

Florida Panthers hold a curse on Vancouver

1 Tkachuk we should have drafted
2 Reinhart from NVan we should have traded for him when he came available
3 Luongo are we still paying his cap circumvention penalty
4 Bennett we should have traded for. Wanted him badly then for cheap
5 Montour same thing
6 OEL....only 7 more years on the books. Could have had Guenther
7 Forsling.....ouch

Ballard Booth

a lot of what could have been when you look at those jerseys

Almost all of which would circle back to the fat ass who dared referring to himself as G f***ing M.

F*** him.

 

[sting101]

What are the odds Luongos wife travels with him to Edmonton for games to support her husband? Not good

ahh yes Gina is not leaving the beachside castle unless it's an elimination game

 

[Flik]

Man, as annoying as the Oilers are, I can't help but feel good for their fans (as obnoxious as they are, whatever, they deserve it I guess).

I hope they lose in the finals only because rivalry, whatever, don't really care.

But ultimately, I can't wait until WE as Canucks fans get to feel that jubilation of having a team make the finals and hopefully next time we do it, we f***ing win it.

Damn, we're so much closer to the top tier contenders than I thought.

 

[VanJack]

The fact that the Oilers are Western Conference champions should be both a major cause of optimism and regret at the same time for the Canucks.

Canucks were a better regular season team.......and if Demko hadn't gone down in the first game of the playoffs; and Boeser had been able to play game #7, they might be where the Oilers are now. It was that close.

But that's the way it is when the Cup playoffs are down to the last eight teams. So much of it depends on horseshoes; a hot goalie and avoiding major injuries. The Oilers have morphed into the Vegas Golden Knights of 2023.

They pack their goal; block a ton shots and cash in on their PP's. And Skinner is proving that you don't need great goaltending anymore to challenge for a Cup. Maybe the Canucks can learn something from that.

But Florida will be a totally different opponent for Edmonton. They basically play the same way; and they go through you, rather than around you. And Bobrovsky gives them a huge edge in goal.

 

[rea]

This is a Reply to the posts that are giving reasons why our team lost, or why it would've won if we had so n so, etc.

Every team and their backers will point to the things they notice and feel are not favorable to their team as reasons why they lost.

Yea our team had some things happen to give us adversity, but it's not like they helped themselves. Every team faces the same dilemma.

Giving excuses and reasons why they lost is such a disservice to the players who got them to that point. Life ain't perfect, and this team came within a couple goals of being in the conference finals, with a team not performing close to what we all know they could play as for so many reasons. Missing key players, change of game plans based on teams, players not playing up to expectations, etc. The list goes on. Even saying all that, there's no guarantee that if they did have x players, that the team would win.

Guess what? Every team has the exact same issues to deal with. Whether they face them or not, that's just how the cookie crumbles. If these players of our teams thought like the majority of us, they'd just quit, or all try to join the supposed golden teams of the league to win. They eat their lumps for the most part, understand and say they have things to work on in offseason to get further, and go about trying to make it happen.

I'm not trying to call anyone out personally, this is something that the majority of our fan base leans on one way or the other , so don't take this as an attack. I think generally, our fan base is all like this, admittedly, myself at times too.

Every team has to play and fight through a war of attrition 81 games for a chance at the playoffs. They then have to win 16 games against the best of the best to be king of the hill. The Stanley Cup is the hardest trophy to win in all the major sports. In the end, this team just wasn't good enough.

 

[Ace of Hades]

100% not overrated. They are going to be one of the teams to run the west for many years.

Overrated doesn't mean they are bad.

They were/are overrated based on the fact that lot of people had the notion that they would steamroll both the Oilers and the Canucks.

 

[quat]

I love how CBC was all over the Canucks’ ass when they won games while getting outshot, and tonight Simpsons says “Glen Sather said it best, stats are for losers”.

I do not like Craig Simpson on TV,
I do not like him talking at me.
I do not like him as a host,
I do not like seeing him in this post

He's an idiot, or a dolt,
something, something, f*** off Craig Simpson

 

[AzNightmare]

Yeah this whole Boston pizza campaign as “Canada’s team” is f***ing weird.

Maybe I'm a chump and in the minority. But I totally feel pleasure if McDavid never wins a cup unless he puts on a Canuck uniform.
A lot of players in this league "deserve" a cup, doesn't mean I care.

 

[Bertuzzzi44]

Sucks we handed the series to the Oilers while having a 3-2 series lead, but we were without our best goal scorer and playing our 3rd string goalie, still feels like a lost opportunity. Canucks were probably the best team in the NHL this year when fully healthy.

Looking forward to running it back next year. Regular season is going to be long and boring, wish we could sim to game 1 of next year’s playoffs. We Want Cup!

 

[Bertuzzzi44]

How’s it feel guys to know that when fully healthy, we likely have the best team in the West? Feels bittersweet.

 

[AzNightmare]

How’s it feel guys to know that when fully healthy, we likely have the best team in the West? Feels bittersweet.

I honestly don't feel too much about it. Being healthy is something every team battles through. The successful teams workaround it, and the ones that aren't don't.

Vancouver didn't let excuses (like Demko) stop them against Nashville, but they simply weren't good enough to beat Edmonton. Drai's back was busted up, but he still made a difference. If certain players are hurt, others need to step up. If they can't, then that's a problem with the team's depth.

 

[rea]

Maybe I'm a chump and in the minority. But I totally feel pleasure if McDavid never wins a cup unless he puts on a Canuck uniform.
A lot of players in this league "deserve" a cup, doesn't mean I care.

Totally understand and agree. In hindsight, there are a ton of non canuck players I would say, yea they were worthy of a championship.

In real time though, especially other Canadian team players, I could never support a win outside of it bringing glory to my team, so if you're in the minority, so am I lol.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

I honestly don't feel too much about it. Being healthy is something every team battles through. The successful teams workaround it, and the ones that aren't don't.

Vancouver didn't let excuses (like Demko) stop them against Nashville, but they simply weren't good enough to beat Edmonton. Drai's back was busted up, but he still made a difference. If certain players are hurt, others need to step up. If they can't, then that's a problem with the team's depth.

Luck is part of the game

The Avs lost their top line LW due to drug abuse

that's the most horseshoe badluck this post season