thebeernerd
Buy out Markstrom
Analytics isn’t about the idea of what a player can be, it’s about looking at data and extrapolating how they can be a fit. Chayka was doing a lot of the former in Arizona and it hurt them.
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SteveCangialosi123
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Man…good for him. That’s a contract year for the ages.
AfroThunder396
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Max term for a 30 year old defenseman with one good season who happens to explode offensively in his contract year. What could possibly go wrong?
I will say that only giving up a 5th round pick to get the 8th year is decent work, given what Vegas gave up for Marner and Columbus gave up for Severson.
I remember thinking the Islanders' deal for Mark Streit was awful. Now he was only signed for 5 years, but he was also 30 coming off what looked like a fluke year, he got 7.2% of the cap in his signing year and he had several good seasons. Raddysh is 8.1%, so a decent amount more, but I still think it's a fine bet - Toronto is not paying for him to be the guy he was last year, they're paying for him to be 75% of that.
I remember thinking the Islanders' deal for Mark Streit was awful. Now he was only signed for 5 years, but he was also 30 coming off what looked like a fluke year, he got 7.2% of the cap in his signing year and he had several good seasons. Raddysh is 8.1%, so a decent amount more, but I still think it's a fine bet - Toronto is not paying for him to be the guy he was last year, they're paying for him to be 75% of that.
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None Shall Pass
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I think thats a pretty good deal all thins considered. I thought he gets 10+ in the open market
Obviously risky due to 1 good year and could turn horrible but they needed a puck mover badly
Obviously risky due to 1 good year and could turn horrible but they needed a puck mover badly
FooteBahl
Took a big shitz for Nemec
Raddysh goes from playing 17:18 in 2024-2025 to playing 22:42 this past season - partly to make up for Hedman's ice time decline (which went from 23:05 to 18:52 while only playing 33 games).
He then gets rewarded from this breakout season with a $68M contract after making $975K this past season. Great for him, but wow.
He then gets rewarded from this breakout season with a $68M contract after making $975K this past season. Great for him, but wow.
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Jeff Finger came to mind when seeing this contract.
I’d kill to have aged that well.
The one thing with Raddysh that scares me is he any good or did he play with JJ Moser 5 on 5 and Nikita Kucherov on the PP ??
Think those 2 deserves a nice dinner on Raddysh for this
Think those 2 deserves a nice dinner on Raddysh for this
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I always find myself surprised by the sign and trade / trading rights deals.
First, it’s interesting how valuable it is for teams to have an extra couple days to talk to the player. If I’m a big ticket FA why wouldn’t I just wait a few more days to hit the open market instead of negotiating with 1 team that I know almost nothing about (ie I just got traded there).
Second how do these contracts get resolved so quickly? I imagine the trading team gives the other one rights to communicate before a trade is finalized. Otherwise this would be tampering to the max or the acquiring team is just overpaying dramatically.
Finally it’s interesting that the extra year matters. 8x8.5 =68M. 68/7 =9.714M. So an extra 1.2m AAV saved by adding the extra year. I don’t know if he’s getting a 7x9.7 on the open market. But in some cases especially for younger RFAs I see a player going for let’s say a 8x7 instead of 7x7.5 which is a $3.5m total delta that the player could always recoup by getting one more contract. For example player X signs for 7 years instead of 8 and in the 8th year gets a 1x6 from elsewhere so he actually makes more money before even accounting for time value of money.
it’s not that much value given (never seen more than a 3 in the deal except for that bizarre Marner tampering blackmail) but it’s a bit of business that doesn’t get talked about much and doesn’t happen too often so always interesting to see
This one is pretty easy. Once a team knows they arent signing a guy, they allow their agent to go out and look around for other teams offers. Once he has a deal in place with a team they then go back and figure out a trade
The NHL doesnt like it, but if the team gives them permission - no one is going to report tampering.
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A friend said he saw the Lightning rumored to sign Carlson for 2 years 5 million AAV. Anybody seeing this from legit sources?
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I'm happy for Raddysh. The points he put up were not fluky, guy has a great shot and Toronto badly needed a guy with his skillset.
Raddysh is from Toronto and they had a need at RHD, so the match makes sense and this might've been Raddysh's preferred destination anyway (particularly getting THAT contract). The extra $1.2M AAV saved is important given Toronto is a win-now team given Matthews' contract, plus they don't even own their own 1st round picks the next 2 years.
Don't think this deal will age well, but for a 5th rounder it makes sense for Toronto to make the deal and Raddysh to get that 8th year.
Don't think this deal will age well, but for a 5th rounder it makes sense for Toronto to make the deal and Raddysh to get that 8th year.
thebeernerd
Buy out Markstrom
The $8 million AAV isn’t as bad in a rising cap era, but it isn’t nothing. More concerning is the fact that it’s an eight year contract for a 30 year old who is coming off a season that had several variables that made him look better than he actually is. The guy who called this Clarkson 2.0 is right.
I hate to belabor the point, but Chayka deserves it for promoting himself as something he’s not: what is the analytical argument for signing Raddysh to an 8 year $8mil AAV contract that almost certainly has trade protection? Because I don’t see any.
I hate to belabor the point, but Chayka deserves it for promoting himself as something he’s not: what is the analytical argument for signing Raddysh to an 8 year $8mil AAV contract that almost certainly has trade protection? Because I don’t see any.
Seems low for Carlson tbh. Rumors of 2 x 9 but Im sure he can get less in Florida. He wants to move back east though 100%
LeBrun mentioned the other day that Carlson to Tampa makes sense given Raddysh was expected to leave.
Don't see anything else on Twitter and the $5M AAV sounds very low versus what Carlson is rumored to want.
Ultimately, I think he signs there at a higher level but still less than what he would've gotten on the open market.
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Yes agreed this looks like a clear win - win - win in terms of the trade.
Contract wise I don’t think he’s worth all that money and I expect it to age badly but I think some team would’ve loved to have him for a 7x8-9 so that late pick allowed Toronto to swoop in and get their guy.
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Not really sure that relates much to what I was saying. It’s not about the idea of what a player can be. It’s what he is currently.
He quite obviously paid for what the player currently is. He’s making a gutsy bet for the right now that’s all.
Is it a bad deal when you project it out 8 years? Probably, but in the context of where they are right now it makes some sense and could be a good deal.
Calling this Clarkson 2.0 is entirely wrong. Clarkson was a limited-use player who had very clear extreme drawbacks and it was likely his skillset would not age well - for him to fall apart immediately could not have been expected, but the signs are there. Clarkson was used on PP2 by the Devils and was primarily a 3rd line player in his career - he was used more in 2012-13 but his results weren't very good.
Raddysh is signed for almost the exact amount of money Clarkson was signed for, relative to the cap. It's within 1/100th of a percentage point.
The analytical argument for Raddysh? He had a great season and usually good players have great seasons. It is more likely that Raddysh is an actually good player than that he was a product of his environment. There's plenty of late bloomers in the NHL pantheon of D - Visnovsky, Streit, Rafalski, etc.
This isn't much money. A player coming off this season who had another season like it somewhere in his career would be expect to be paid well in excess of $10M. This rising cap has everyone confused. Raddysh and Hamilton are signed for almost the same money, but when Hamilton signed his deal, it was 11% of the cap, now it's 8.6%.
