GDT: Around the League - Stanley Cup Final Edition - #1

[IPS]

Well, I don't know about that. I think matchups are a thing and the Leafs could run and gun to some extent vs Tampa but would come up short in other crucial areas.

Tampa went hit for hit with the Islanders and came out on top.

I think Tampa ousts us in 5 games.

 

[Menzinger]

You don't think Tampa wouldn't utterly throttle us?

I think Tampa is a better team and would be the favorite to win a series against the Leafs. But in terms of playing style s, the Leafs would have less difficulty in some ways than overcoming teams like say Vegas that play more of a heavy forecheck and physical grind.

You'd see a lot more speed and puck movement in a Leafs-Tampa series (which is a strength for the Leafs)

Edit: clarification

 

[IPS]

I think Tampa is a better team and would be the favorite to win a series against the Leafs. But in terms of playing style s, the Leafs would have less difficulty overcoming teams like say Vegas that play more of a heavy forecheck and physical grind.

You'd see a lot more speed and puck movement in a Leafs-Tampa series (which is a strength for the Leafs)

In a regular season environment - sure, why not.

Playoff intensity in the equation - no chance, they out-hit, out-defend and out-score us. Their stars thrive in high intensity games, ours disappear.

 

[djdev]

I think Tampa is a better team and would be the favorite to win a series against the Leafs. But in terms of playing style s, the Leafs would have less difficulty in some ways than overcoming teams like say Vegas that play more of a heavy forecheck and physical grind.

You'd see a lot more speed and puck movement in a Leafs-Tampa series (which is a strength for the Leafs)

Edit: clarification

i agree with this thought process, i think if mtl gets colorado instead of vegas its a whole different series too, mtl/vegas just kinda grinded each other into a last man standing type of situation, they effectively nuetralized each other and the team with the better goaltending won. we would prob stand a better chance against the tampas and colorados of the world then the vegas type teams(like mtl)

 

[Gabriel426]

TB would absolutely destroy us in the playoffs.
Just don’t see how Leafs can beat TB. We are pretty much TB lite.

 

[rumman]

These guys on Tampa, Cernak,Gourde,Palat,Killorn,Cirelli all make between 3-5 million for quality depth.

You’re asking a lot for guys you want to pay a million or less to fill out the team in 10 spots.
Be thankful 700K Spezza gave you what you got.

Can’t afford useful things when you spend all your money on shiny things.

 

[rumman]

You don't think Tampa wouldn't utterly throttle us?

I’d be embarrassing, Tampa destroys the sissified Leafs, they’re physically dominating the Habs, at least in game one, shows how tough the Isles were.

 

[Hockey4Life91]

I think Tampa is a better team and would be the favorite to win a series against the Leafs. But in terms of playing style s, the Leafs would have less difficulty in some ways than overcoming teams like say Vegas that play more of a heavy forecheck and physical grind.

You'd see a lot more speed and puck movement in a Leafs-Tampa series (which is a strength for the Leafs)

Edit: clarification

You are mistaken, and you have not watched Tampa in the playoffs. Tampa's go-to is a heavy forecheck and physical grind. That is why it has won 62 playoff games, 14 series, and 1 cup since 2014-2015. That, too, is why it swarmed and overpowered NYI, and did so even more easily versus the Habs. The media has gotten it wrong: Tampa rarely plays run and gun in the playoffs.

 

[Trapper]

You are mistaken, and you have not watched Tampa in the playoffs. Tampa's go-to is a heavy forecheck and physical grind. That is why it has won 62 playoff games, 14 series, and 1 cup since 2014-2015. That, too, is why it swarmed and overpowered NYI, and did so even more easily versus the Habs. The media has gotten it wrong: Tampa rarely plays run and gun in the playoffs.

Tampa can play any style.
So when people tune in, you think what you see is what it is. They can forecheck, skill, rush, defend, win 1-0, play dirty whatever.

With the Leafs, what you see is what you get. They play the same regardless of what is going on around them.

 

[Ignatius Reilly]

Whenever I watch Tampa’s secondary and role players like Killorn, Goodrow, Coleman and Maroon I feel more confident that walking away from Hyman is the best decision the team can make. You simply can’t pay a “fan favourite” a big market raise for being the hardest working guy in the room. Just can’t work like that.

Do you really want to send a message "we don't value guys that work hard on this team"?

It seems half the team already knows that. Not sure I'd be reinforcing it.

 

[Trapper]

Do you really want to send a message "we don't value guys that work hard on this team"?

It seems half the team already knows that. Not sure I'd be reinforcing it.

Shanahan and Dubas have already sent the message.

Whatever this core does, we are going to keep going with it.
Who cares about any other message.
There isn’t any accountability.

 

[rumman]

Do you really want to send a message "we don't value guys that work hard on this team"?

It seems half the team already knows that. Not sure I'd be reinforcing it.

And yet mgmt is tripling down on their bad idea……..

 

[TheShape]

Relieved NYI didn't advance, had they got to the finals I'd say the Habs were the favourite. If Tampa keep this up it will be a quick series. Bolts are the better team in every facet of the game. I love watching Tampa, they dgaf. Will play any style you want and pound you into the ice while doing so. Ruthless.

And for once in these playoffs the goalie across from Price is the better one.

 

[mydnyte]

Tampa can play any style.
So when people tune in, you think what you see is what it is. They can forecheck, skill, rush, defend, win 1-0, play dirty whatever.

With the Leafs, what you see is what you get. They play the same regardless of what is going on around them.

their core as also been together for a very long time, and they can read each other well, and have the same system, so they know where they will be and their passes become routine... our core is still children, and getting to know each other.

 

[Ignatius Reilly]

their core as also been together for a very long time, and they can read each other well, and have the same system, so they know where they will be and their passes become routine... our core is still children, and getting to know each other.

Haven't they played 5 seasons together now? That's a lot of games and a lot more practices.

Seems like they should have figured it out by now if they're ever going to do it.

 

[Ignatius Reilly]

The next game will tell that story imo. Habs have been good at making adjustments, clogging up the right spots vs specific opponents... they play targeted trap hockey, not general trap hockey. Thing is, Tampa is a jack of all trades kinda team (very unlike our team of pukes), they will adjust on the fly and take what you give... if they can control GM2 in the same fashion I am on board with you.

Next game will certainly give us a better sense of how this series will go. You just can't judge a series after one game.

Habs got dominated by the (arguably) best team in the league.

They also got pounded 4-1 by Vegas in game one.

They also got pounded by Leafs in games 2, 3 and 4 and were really on the ropes.

I think they can and will make key adjustments. We'll see if that works.

No matter what they've been pretty fascinating to watch and I'm looking forward to the rest of the games.

 

[mydnyte]

Next game will certainly give us a better sense of how this series will go. You just can't judge a series after one game.

Habs got dominated by the (arguably) best team in the league.

They also got pounded 4-1 by Vegas in game one.

They also got pounded by Leafs in games 2, 3 and 4 and were really on the ropes.

I think they can and will make key adjustments. We'll see if that works.

No matter what they've been pretty fascinating to watch and I'm looking forward to the rest of the games.

the Ref's will play a HUGE impact on this series.
the TB PP is great, and they are always a threat.
Leafs PP went on vacation the 2nd half and barely re-appeared, else, MTL would have been out by us.
MTL is not a high scoring team, and, if they dont get 3 past Vasy, they have no chance, and if TB gets 2-3 PP chances a game, this can be a short series.

 

[hockeyes]

Next game will certainly give us a better sense of how this series will go. You just can't judge a series after one game.

Habs got dominated by the (arguably) best team in the league.

They also got pounded 4-1 by Vegas in game one.

They also got pounded by Leafs in games 2, 3 and 4 and were really on the ropes.

I think they can and will make key adjustments. We'll see if that works.

No matter what they've been pretty fascinating to watch and I'm looking forward to the rest of the games.

Vegas was fortunate to win 4-1 game 1, it was a lot closer with Montreal controlling parts of the game. Last night, Montreal was fortunate to be within 1 goal heading into the 3rd and controlled basically nothing the entire game. I really don't think Montreal can make the amount of adjustments needed to turn it into a close series. They will probably win 1 or 2 games on some puck luck and white knuckling it to the finish line but that's about it.

 

[hamzarocks]

RNH got 8 years 5.125M

Hyman better sign 6 years 4M

 

[mydnyte]

RNH got 8 years 5.125M

Hyman better sign 6 years 4M

With Edmonton, I'd be on board ...on the Leafs, well, I dont want him on the Leafs!

 

[Superstar]

RNH got 8 years 5.125M

Hyman better sign 6 years 4M

Dubas might sign Hyman for 5 years at $5 million and thinks he's got a good deal, or maybe 4 years at $6 million...lol...it's ridiculous this media is hyping Hyman for upwards of $6 million when it's a freakin' flat cap...which team is paying Hyman $6 million a year with term?

Don't worry, when Matty, Willy and Mitch are pending UFAs, we'll hear the media reporting numbers of $15 million, $10 million and $13 million for the 3.

 

[leafsfan5]

Tampa can play any style.
So when people tune in, you think what you see is what it is. They can forecheck, skill, rush, defend, win 1-0, play dirty whatever.

With the Leafs, what you see is what you get. They play the same regardless of what is going on around them.

Yup, in this run they've played the entertaining run and gun style (game 1 vs FLA) but have also played a stingy, boring game as well (game 7 vs NYI, they absolutely shut the Islanders down lol). This series they're going toe to toe with Montreal physically. Any style you want to play, they can play and do it better.

Tampa is damn good

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

Leafs are the England of hockey

So we're beating Boston in the first round next season

 

[Superstar]

Leafs are the England of hockey

So we're beating Boston in the first round next season

Maybe Leafs knock the Bruins out of the playoffs, and if we're lucky, we draw the Habs...

 

[keonsbitterness]

In terms of offensive flow and production, I think the dreaded core would have better success against Tampa than they did vs Montreal. I could see a couple of high scoring 6-4 type games with teams trading chances. But they'd still probably take us out in five.

Or maybe we'd go the dramatic route by extending the series to game seven, and then we'd lose 5-0.