LaPlante94
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Some GMs build a team for playoffs and some for the regular season. This isn't a shot at Dubas btw because I do like him.
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Some GMs build a team for playoffs and some for the regular season. This isn't a shot at Dubas btw because I do like him.
socko
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Wouldn't that be something if Montreal pulled it out for the North Division. It would shock the hell out of me that's for sure. They are indeed getting great goaltending.
saffronleaf
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no man then these gutless losers will hold their head high oh we lost to the eventual cup winner what kenya do etc.
either way the one thing that never changes in this equation is that this iteration of the Leafs is chock full of gutless losers
hockeyes
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If the Habs somehow fluke this off, good for them. I think Vegas will be a lot more motivated going forward, they had a cup cake first game than slacked off. It's now officially bitten them in the ass and they should be ready to pummel the Habs going forward.
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It’s like a mix of the 2004 Flames, 2006 Oilers, 2011 Devils and 2014 Rangers. Mediocre teams going far.
I like the 2016-2017 Senators example. The Sens did better in the regular season than the Habs but if I recall, their underlying numbers were not strong. Inclusive of the regular season+playoffs, they allowed more goals than they scored, essentially coasting to the conference finals on the backs of a hot Craig Anderson and Erik Karlsson playing out of his mind. They made it to Game 7, 2OT before eventually losing to the Pens.
The next year, the Sens brought back virtually the same team. Their only notable move was Kyle Turris-for-Matt Duchene, and that was made in November and at the time was thought to be an improvement. They finished second last in the NHL that year -- from a goal away to the Cup finals to a lottery pick.
I don't see the Habs finishing bottom three next year, but I would not be even the slightest bit surprised if they finished in the bottom ten. I also think you have to admit at this point that they have a genuine shot at the Cup this year. This sport is really stupid sometimes.
Jimmy Firecracker
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The amount of luck the Habs get is infuriating. Leafs haven’t had even close to this kind of fortune over the past 5 playoffs. When’s the last time our goalie stood on his head for us in the playoffs? When did one of our opponents lose a key player for an entire series? They’ve had it happen in 2 straight series and likely a third given how volatile concussions are. When’s the last time every OT bounce went our way? When’s the last time our opponents bent over in an elimination game like the Leafs did and made it as easy as possible to win?
Christ it’s unbelievable. Montreal wins games they’ve got no business winning on the flukiest plays. Galchenyuk, Dermott, and now Fleury just gifting them big goals. Meanwhile every Leafs playoff win has to be scratched and clawed for and God forbid they stumble for even a minute in a playoff game, it’s over for them then.
Christ it’s unbelievable. Montreal wins games they’ve got no business winning on the flukiest plays. Galchenyuk, Dermott, and now Fleury just gifting them big goals. Meanwhile every Leafs playoff win has to be scratched and clawed for and God forbid they stumble for even a minute in a playoff game, it’s over for them then.
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They very well may be the worst of the entire bunch. I would include the 2016-2017 Senators in that group as well
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The Leafs 2 highly paid divas knows nothing of scratching and clawing their way to playoff victories, that is the problem. The Habs also made their own luck by fully committing to their team system and playing hard, meanwhile Marner was coughing up pucks in the neutral zone so he could avoid getting hit.
It will sting more for the fans as opposed to them. And there inlies the problem with the core of this team.
Jmo89
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Good point. They're such losers they'll just use it for validation.
Jimmy Firecracker
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Not hockey but Clippers without Kawhi managed to exorcise their demons and make the Conference Finals for the first time in 50 years. Must be nice for the rest of your team to step up and get it done.
Stonehands1990
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Hard for the rest of our team to step up when the lineup is filled out with bargain bin acquisitions
Marc Bergevin is a terrible gm that basically is propped up by Carey price and the playoff hockey rulebook which basically favors no talent gritty mcgrit teams
LaPlante94
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This is your 3rd time asking this question. Do you really need it to be answered for a 3rd time?
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I lost interest in the PO's once that despicable display the Leafs put up ended. Mostly watching the highlights, it's all become so boring.
If you don't have goaltending in this league, you will not win. Much like quarterbacking in the NFL. Anyway that loss was definitely on Fleury and his reaction would belie that fact. Such an Andersieve thing to do.
That defensive breakdown in OT was atrocious, such a leafy thing to happen. If these two things happened to the Leaf's we would be burning down the house.
This can happen to any team at any time.
The Leaf's are nowhere close to a cup contending team so take what you get.
Can this core turn it around and grow a set? Not A Chance!!! This apple is rotten to the core.
Very Flawed make up and after 51 years of misery, I'm done caring. I will be an occasional onlooker but I don't really like this team (many players).
If I was a new GM handed this team, the first moves I would make are easy ones. Out with Marner and AM, yes I said it. Two reasons for AM, he is leaving anyway may as well get some return for him and second he isn't a winner. He will give some nice goals during the season but the compete level is not there when it's important. I would rebuild with no high priced so called superstars, especially these 2. They will contaminate the young players coming up.
Matthews claimed at one point this was a close knit team that really liked playing and hanging out with each other, that was not evident when the chips were down. What ever happened to win it for Johnny??? Ya right.
If you don't have goaltending in this league, you will not win. Much like quarterbacking in the NFL. Anyway that loss was definitely on Fleury and his reaction would belie that fact. Such an Andersieve thing to do.
That defensive breakdown in OT was atrocious, such a leafy thing to happen. If these two things happened to the Leaf's we would be burning down the house.
This can happen to any team at any time.
The Leaf's are nowhere close to a cup contending team so take what you get.
Can this core turn it around and grow a set? Not A Chance!!! This apple is rotten to the core.
Very Flawed make up and after 51 years of misery, I'm done caring. I will be an occasional onlooker but I don't really like this team (many players).
If I was a new GM handed this team, the first moves I would make are easy ones. Out with Marner and AM, yes I said it. Two reasons for AM, he is leaving anyway may as well get some return for him and second he isn't a winner. He will give some nice goals during the season but the compete level is not there when it's important. I would rebuild with no high priced so called superstars, especially these 2. They will contaminate the young players coming up.
Matthews claimed at one point this was a close knit team that really liked playing and hanging out with each other, that was not evident when the chips were down. What ever happened to win it for Johnny??? Ya right.
LaPlante94
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Non talented players keep beating all these talented players/teams. Must have some kind of talent if they keep doing it.
because apparently you think the Leafs Should trade talented players for no skill no talent gritty McGrits with high compete level but low offensive ability?
I tend to feel the same. If that's such a thing as a hockey god, this god must be a Habs fan. If Fleury didn't gift them the goal they'd have little chance coming from behind to win this game. And we all know about the suspension and injuries to key players in the other series, and the way the two OT's went in the first round.
But when your goalie makes $10 mil, standing on his head should be expected. That's part of their team make-up rather than luck.
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Your words not mine. If you traded Marner and AM do you think nothing of value would come back? Sounds like you have a lesser value of them than I do.
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Where was the High offense from these two the last two years? They looked very low compete low skill to me.
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