AbsentMojo
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Maybe GMs should pay closer attention to how prospect names sound in English before pulling the trigger re the ones that flop... universe trying to help out and no one paying attention.
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The kings also locked up Fiala to a lot longer term than Detroit locked up DeBrincat so that has to play into it as well.
I like Fiala better than DeBrincat that’s all personal preference.
Basically, a first round pick was given away in each trade so it’s Faber versus the fourth round pick, Kubalik, and the other throw in. Kubalik is still a serviceable NHL player that can play in the top nine and on the power-play to take away a little of the sting of losing DeBrincat.
If you want to say, we gave two first round picks away for Fiala, I can live with that, as I was probably one of the biggest Faber supporters right from the minute he was drafted. Saying that Blake traded from a power of strength as Spence did not have the trade value that Faber did, and it was going to take Faber to get the deal done.
Faber still would not make the Los Angeles kings this year as one of Clarke or Spence will be left off the team. The only way this would hurt more is a Faber was a left shot defenseman. I see favor. Going to have a career just like Mikey Anderson give her take here or there. Unfortunately, I don’t like either of those guys above a top four Defenceman yes, neither is overly offensive or are they overly physical.
What they are is very dependable defensive guys that allow other partners to take liberties with the puck. These guys will have solid 15 your careers and make a lot of money in NHL and be a coaches and a goalies best friend
Still very much like her deal for Fiala and still very much want to see Faber be that solid shut down defenseman for the next dozen years. Just not against us.
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'I will end your bloodline': Scottsdale police report reveals new details of Coyotes player arrest
Galchenyuk allegedly threatened to "chop" an officer who responded to the hit-and-run incident and cut out the kidneys of the officer's family members, according to a police report obtained Friday by 12News.
"I will end your bloodline," the suspect allegedly told Scottsdale police."One phone call and you're dead."
Galchenyuk allegedly threatened to "chop" an officer who responded to the hit-and-run incident and cut out the kidneys of the officer's family members, according to a police report obtained Friday by 12News.
"I will end your bloodline," the suspect allegedly told Scottsdale police."One phone call and you're dead."
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I don't think there is a valid argument for the DeBrincat package being equal or more than the Fiala package: a 1st and Faber is far better than a 1st and spare parts.
I'd maybe prefer Faber straight up over the entire Detroit package. One in the hand v. two in the bush and I know the one in my hand should be a Top 4 defenseman in this league for a long time and he is on his ELC.
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I too prefer a hand in the bush.
And yeah I’d take Faber over what Ottawa got. I wish we’d stop trading our promising guys for the latest toy.
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Faber is a better prospect than Spence, I really don’t think it’s close. I like Spence but there are some obstacles to overcome that don’t exist with Faber. Clarke and Faber would be LA’s 1A/1B young players and having both would probably enable you to trade Roy for help in goal or on the wing and not really miss much of a beat on D. I’m a big Roy guy also, but it’s the circle of life in a cap league, teams have to move on from older more expensive guys and replace them with ELC guys. The Kings are paying $26m to their likely 4 centers this year and $23 the next two years after that. There will have to be cuts somewhere.
I would say there is a better than even money chance that both Clarke and Faber are considered to be better players than Roy by the end of this season. Not a knock on Roy, he will be paid well in his next contract, it’s just Clarke and Faber have a real chance to be difference making type players while still on ELC’s.
I would say there is a better than even money chance that both Clarke and Faber are considered to be better players than Roy by the end of this season. Not a knock on Roy, he will be paid well in his next contract, it’s just Clarke and Faber have a real chance to be difference making type players while still on ELC’s.
He is a dirtbag, should not be in the NHL and definitely not this country. Go back to Russia, Bum.
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Dude is from Wisconsin.
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Debrincat is coming off a down year and made it widely known he only wanted to extend in Detroit. I personally think Fiala is a much better player than Debrincat, and we got him signed longer term to the same AAV. That’s a big win and worth the extra cost.
It would be more accurate to compare the return of the initial Debrincat trade which was a 7th overall + a high 2nd, which in terms of expected value at draft position is worth more than what we paid in pick value for Fiala (which was the 19th overall + Faber who was taken at 45th overall).
It would be more accurate to compare the return of the initial Debrincat trade which was a 7th overall + a high 2nd, which in terms of expected value at draft position is worth more than what we paid in pick value for Fiala (which was the 19th overall + Faber who was taken at 45th overall).
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I found this clip enjoyable.
Boy times have changed.
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Why does it seem like every single player on the ice in that 1967 clip has the same super short haircut. It's like a military game. Weird.
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If you have ESPN+, they have a section of "classic games." I throw them on all the time when I'm cooking or doing chores. Cool little blast from the past.
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Kraken's Jared McCann thinks Canucks gave up on him too soon: 'I was in a dark place'
Jared McCann opened up about his stint with the Canucks, saying it took a physical and mental toll on him as a teenager.
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“I could’ve used a year in the AHL,” McCann said. "Mentally, I think it would have helped me. Physically, it would have helped me out. I was 172 pounds playing in the NHL as a 19-year-old. You get tossed around...
Interesting interview with McCann on the Mitts Off podcast. This is why I generally like taking a conservative approach with prospects. Giving them time in the AHL instead of forcing them into the NHL too soon.
He also said he was a huge Kings fan growing up.
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There are a few points of disagreement:
Kraken's Jared McCann thinks Canucks gave up on him too soon: 'I was in a dark place'
Jared McCann opened up about his stint with the Canucks, saying it took a physical and mental toll on him as a teenager.
“I could’ve used a year in the AHL,” McCann said. "Mentally, I think it would have helped me. Physically, it would have helped me out. I was 172 pounds playing in the NHL as a 19-year-old. You get tossed around...
Interesting interview with McCann on the Mitts Off podcast. This is why I generally like taking a conservative approach with prospects. Giving them time in the AHL instead of forcing them into the NHL too soon.
He also said he was a huge Kings fan growing up.
1. He wasn't eligible for the AHL as a 19 year-old. So, it was never an option, unless he's talking about getting a few games at the end of the season after spending all year in juniors. So, him saying he could have used a year in the AHL suggests he either doesn't know the rules or he thinks the rules should be changed. If it's the latter, I agree. If it's the former, it's moot. And it's telling that he didn't think he would have benefited from another year in junior hockey.
2. McCann is a scrorer and he was also put in bottom-six minutes. You know those scorers put in grinding roles. How does that work out?
3. He was talking more about how multiple teams were quick to give up on him. I understand that's a direct quote in the article, but I think you ignored the bulk of what he was saying.
4. As mentioned every time we talk about putting young players in bigger roles, we also talk about scaling back responsibility if it gets overwhelming. Not every prospect thrives with going to the NHL right away, just as not every prospect thrives with having to wait 5 years.
I just don't see how having a wider variety of approaches, instead of a dedication to "slow boiling" a prospect, is a bad thing. I fail to see how a prospect playing early in their career and being told early on their coach does not trust them is a GOOD thing - and if you think it's not about trust, listen to interviews and dialogue of why coaches do it.
I think it's a good article, but it really doesn't refute any points we have spent countless hours arguing about.
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Kraken's Jared McCann thinks Canucks gave up on him too soon: 'I was in a dark place'
Jared McCann opened up about his stint with the Canucks, saying it took a physical and mental toll on him as a teenager.
“I could’ve used a year in the AHL,” McCann said. "Mentally, I think it would have helped me. Physically, it would have helped me out. I was 172 pounds playing in the NHL as a 19-year-old. You get tossed around...
Interesting interview with McCann on the Mitts Off podcast. This is why I generally like taking a conservative approach with prospects. Giving them time in the AHL instead of forcing them into the NHL too soon.
He also said he was a huge Kings fan growing up.
Funny story
late 1st round pick who was a prolific junior scorer spent 71 games on a mediocre team getting just over 11 ES minutes a game on the 4th line with plugs and no special teams time of note and subsequently didn't develop in a timely manner and was traded until a team who believed in him put him in a position to succeed and he blew up
Wow where have we heard that before
You mean that players need to be put in a position to use their skillets, in order to advance & polish said skill sets?
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johnjm22
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Nothing I said disagrees with any of the points you've made here.
I said I generally like to take a conservative. As in it's my preference, but I don't think it's ALWAYS the best route to take. It depends on the player and situation.
Speaking of Kaliyev, I do think he would've been better served in the AHL last season if the Kings weren't going to use him in a scoring role in the NHL.
I thought the previous season was some good experience for him, but it's difficult to get into rhythm the way LA was using him.
This is nothing unique to LA. You see this all the time.
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Listening to McCann talk, I think his development had a lot to do with the off-ice stuff as much as the on-ice stuff.
I think guys who hit the ground running in the NHL are typically very mature for their age, in addition to being very skilled obviously.
I think you sorta need to have confidence, and be secure/comfortable in your own life in order to prosper on the ice or really in any professional job for that matter. I think for most average people that maturity doesn't come until a bit later in life.
I think back to when I was in my late teens / early twenties, and how socially inept I was. There's no way I could've handled myself as well as some of these young prospects do. Especially if you're a 1st round pick in a Canadian market.
I think guys who hit the ground running in the NHL are typically very mature for their age, in addition to being very skilled obviously.
I think you sorta need to have confidence, and be secure/comfortable in your own life in order to prosper on the ice or really in any professional job for that matter. I think for most average people that maturity doesn't come until a bit later in life.
I think back to when I was in my late teens / early twenties, and how socially inept I was. There's no way I could've handled myself as well as some of these young prospects do. Especially if you're a 1st round pick in a Canadian market.
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If you grew up in the 80's like me, you would find that is no obstacle to telling anyone from anywhere to "go back to Russia".
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