Tidbits: Around the League: NHL News - Part 3

[Minnewildsota]

MacKinnon has to have one of the weirder career splits that I've seen.

First 4 years, per 82 games:
21 goals
36 assists
57 points

Next 5 years, per 82 games:
40 goals
67 assists
107 points

Goes from a 53 point-per-82-game player one year to a 105 point-per-82-game player the very next one, 5 years into his career.

Wonder how much that has to do with Rantanen

 

[Wabit]

MacKinnon has to have one of the weirder career splits that I've seen.

First 4 years, per 82 games:
21 goals
36 assists
57 points

Next 5 years, per 82 games:
40 goals
67 assists
107 points

Goes from a 53 point-per-82-game player one year to a 105 point-per-82-game player the very next one, 5 years into his career.

Gotta remember 53p season was on a COL team that only scored 165 goals and ended with 48 standings points. The next season MacKinnion had 97p (74 games), COL scored 255 goals, and had 95 standing points.

That split happened right at the 300 games played mark for MacKinnion. IIRC it was BB that said something along the lines of: it takes around 300 games for a player to figure things out.

 

[AKL]

The Patrick Roy effect. He was an awful coach. He had the entire team playing like thugs for three years. He's the reason some of you hate the Avs so much (though some of you have hated them a lot longer, so not the only reason).

You could always tell MacKinnon had the talent, without question. Roy just suppressed it. It took one season after Roy left for MacKinnon to go from 50 point bust to top 5 forward in the league.

 

[Wabit]

What happened to the 3-2 or 2-1, OT, Playoff hockey?

So far it seems like every game is a complete blowout this post season.

 

[Wabit]

Before the DAL/CGY series I gave CGY the advantage in net. So far Oettinger has been lights out for DAL though.

 

[Wabit]

BOS has made it a series (tied 2-2) after looking completely outclassed in games 1 and 2.

 

[57special]

Trotz fired. Parise must've complained that he was holding down his stats.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Trotz fired. Parise must've complained that he was holding down his stats.

Odd thought, but how attached is Guerin to Dean?

 

[57special]

Odd thought, but how attached is Guerin to Dean?

As much as Trotz is a vg coach, putting him together with young, exciting offensively minded forwards like Kap, Fiala, Boldy, and the like would be about as crazy as i could imagine, and we are not talking good crazy here.

 

[Wabit]

Odd thought, but how attached is Guerin to Dean?

Trotz is good for the GREEF line, not good for the Kaprizov line.

 

[DeagleJenkins]

There is speculation that Trotz holds Barzal back. We got away from boring hockey, do we wanna go back to it?

 

[Wabit]

No Kemps in net for COL. I wonder if NSH can avoid the sweep?

 

[Jesus comma Brodin]

Oettinger (one of us, one of us) is a beast for Dallas. Had 31 saves midway through the 2nd and it took a 1:40+ 5 on 3 to beat him. The Flames look like they're on a PP at even strength, Robertson, Seguin, and Klingberg just were all on the ice for 3+ minutes just now due to being that pinned in.

 

[TaLoN]

No Kemps in net for COL. I wonder if NSH can avoid the sweep?

Nope

 

[thestonedkoala]

Oettinger (one of us, one of us) is a beast for Dallas. Had 31 saves midway through the 2nd and it took a 1:40+ 5 on 3 to beat him. The Flames look like they're on a PP at even strength, Robertson, Seguin, and Klingberg just were all on the ice for 3+ minutes just now due to being that pinned in.

But 1st round goalies are a terrible investment...

 

[Jesus comma Brodin]

Nope

Never any reason for them to start Keumper, that series was over before it started, let him rest up.

 

[Wild11MN]

Ex-Predators captain Arnott roasts Suter: 'All he would do is complain'

Warning: Story contains coarse language.Former Nashville Predators captain Jason Arnott was apparently not a big fan of his old teammate and current Dallas Stars defenseman Ryan Suter.Arnott and Suter played together in Nashville for four seasons from 2006-07 to 2009-10. Arnott said Suter has...

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Arnott and Suter played together in Nashville for four seasons from 2006-07 to 2009-10. Arnott said Suter has attitude problems, especially in contrast to Shea Weber - who succeeded Arnott as the Predators' captain in 2010-11.

"The attitude of (Suter) was night and day to (Weber)," Arnott said on The Cam & Strick Podcast Tuesday. "All he would do is complain about how come he's not on the power play, how come he doesn't play enough, 'I can't believe this guy's making this much money.'

"(Weber), he was night and day," Arnott continued. "He wanted to learn, super respectful, played hard, so two different dynamics of mentality of players."

...


"I heard he was a huge distraction in that (Wild) dressing room," Arnott said. "Knowing (general manager Bill Guerin), he's not putting up with that and he's cleaning house."

He added: "Now look at them. They have a phenomenal team without all that money and distraction."

 

[AKL]

How is it always the shorty teams that have already been gifted several draft lottery wins that keep winning. Can we get someone besides Edmonton, Buffalo and New Jersey for once?

 

[TaLoN]

How is it always the shorty teams that have already been gifted several draft lottery wins that keep winning. Can we get someone besides Edmonton, Buffalo and New Jersey for once?

It's because of the draft lottery in the first place. Get rid of the lottery and these teams don't get multiple top picks.

 

[Wabit]

It's because of the draft lottery in the first place. Get rid of the lottery and these teams don't get multiple top picks.

I disagree. Bad teams stay bad for multiple seasons. BUF, AZ, COL, and EDM would all have multiple top 3 picks since the lockout.

Without the lottery it just becomes a more competitive race to put the worst team on the ice for several teams each season. It gives more reason for bad teams to let their high end prospects stew in the minors and let their ELCs slide for a couple of seasons.

It's the way the MLB has been headed for the last few years. Their draft really isn't near as important/impactful as the NHL draft is either.

 

[MK9]

Cripes. There may be no fanbase in any league with a bigger victim complex than Maple Leaf fans.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Now that the trade is complete, Chicago got HOSED big time with the Seth Jones trade.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Now that the trade is complete, Chicago got HOSED big time with the Seth Jones trade.

Love to see it.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Love to see it.

Me too; I mean Columbus got two top 4 defensemen in Bean and Boqvist, a top 6 forward in Sillinger and MAYBE a franchise, but a top 6 forward/top 4 defenseman in this year's draft for Jones. That's how you rebuild.

 

[Wild11MN]

I will never understand why the NHL thinks it's a good idea for the #2 seed in the conference to have the equivalent path of an 8 seed to get to the conference finals (beating #1 and #4).

Obviously they would need to beat good teams to go deep anyway, and it looks like this team wouldn't have done it this year. I don't blame the divisional playoffs for the (probable) loss. But this format is BS, and no one will change my mind.