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Lol. Stay classy, Yakupov. Oilers have no problem celebrating when they win, but looks like they're taking lessons from the Bruins on how to be sore losers.
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Lol. Stay classy, Yakupov. Oilers have no problem celebrating when they win, but looks like they're taking lessons from the Bruins on how to be sore losers.
Have to admit, the Avs are impressively gutting out some impressive wins with Landeskog, Downey, and O'Reilly all out.
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Hodgson ended the night -3, team-worst together with Leopold and Myers. How they seem to think that everything is fine with his defensive play, I don't understand.
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Not saying he's good defensively, but +/- isn't a great indicator of a player's defensive ability.
Of course it isn't, but at this point he has been on the ice for something like 13GA at ES which is the worst in the league. To me that reflects poorly on Ruff and Regier, more so than Hodgson.
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I like Hodgson and think he's going to be a very solid player in this league. There is no way he is ready to be a #1 center. I still think he was in a perfect spot in Vancouver for his development, learning from two great front line centermen. It's a shame, for whatever reason, that it didn't work out. Hopefully this situation he's in doesn't hurt his development.
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The difference being the Bruins make the playoffs and have won a cup. Both teams are chronic divers except the Bruins can back up their talk.
The Oilers are full of clowns that strut their stuff when they win and cry like babies when they lose. They should be used to the loser mentality by now. Yakupov has been a career loser already as well. Can't wait to see that **** eat grin wiped from his face when he does indeed bite off more than he can chew like Canucker said.
I'm hoping that Kass slaps a couple of these kids around on Monday.
Not sure how guys like RNH or even Hemsky fit in with that group of clowns. Hall, Eberle, Yakupov Gagner with their over the top celebrations.
It doesn't help that their farm team doesn't teach defense either. He spent 20 games there and played exactly zero defense during that time. I'm not sure what the thinking is — he's not going to magically become better.
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He didnt want to be patient and develop. He felt he was ready to take a top 6 role because he believes he's on guys like Stamkos' level. Big attitude problem and I wouldn't doubt he's sitting in his stall after these losses and thinking that nothing is wrong with his play.
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Everyone thinks he has a lot of potential. That ability comes around so rarely. But what is he really? In his rookie year he was a dominant force. Since then, it's just been complete guess work on the ice. How long can you play him like he is a #1 before you have to shelter him and "begin again" essentially?
Great tools, questionable tool box.
There is a huge discrepancy in points on the buffalo Sabres team even with hodgson playing on the top line and getting 1st line mins and pp time compared to his line mates.
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I browse there thread and many of them keep brining up Kassian play with the sedan twins which is why he's been so good and I can't help but grin a little to know that's not the case. Hodgson is freeloading off his line a lot more than Kassian is.
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I browse there thread and many of them keep brining up Kassian play with the sedan twins which is why he's been so good and I can't help but grin a little to know that's not the case. Hodgson is freeloading off his line a lot more than Kassian is.
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They were ecstatic at the time of the trade thinking this was the Neely trade. They were right. Except we got Neely
And stating that Foligno is why Kass got traded explains how terrible their management really is if they believe he's better than Kassian
It's another example of why bridge contracts are so important. Guys off their ELC's are getting way overpaid on long term contracts instead of getting a bridge contract like Subban or Del Zotto.
They were ecstatic at the time of the trade thinking this was the Neely trade. They were right. Except we got Neely
And stating that Foligno is why Kass got traded explains how terrible their management really is if they believe he's better than Kassian
Foligno is good, not as good as Kass, but good. The problem is, you look at their lineup and you certainly don't think that having more big forwards is something they should be turning down. Roy to Hodgson was a downgrade, IMO, and I don't see how adding Ott balances that out.
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They would probably be in a better position this season with Kassian over Hodgson. But considering they don't really have any leadership, I doubt they have someone like the Sedin that would have taken Kassian under their wing an worked him in the offseason.
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I don't fully agree with this...I seriously don't think he feels he's at Stamkos' level, and I don't think he has a "Big attitude problem". I think people want to create a perceived attitude problem where there isnt one. The guy didn't want to be the 3rd fiddle behind Kesler and Henrik for the forseeable future, he's not AV's prototype 3rd line center so what was his role going to be? If I were in his shoes I'd do the exact same thing. If you are an offensive player you want to be in a position where you can establish yourself as such, and that wasn't going to happen in Vancouver.
If Buffalo wants to put him as their 1st line center then they obviously are prepared to deal with his defensive warts in order to get some offense out of him...it's just kind of stupid that they don't seem to put him with any other players with a defensive conscience to cover up his defensive mistakes.
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The willingness of a player to learn and want to be better and improve your overall game is very underrated, imo. Something Gillis tries to target in players.
In Cody's defense, I don't think it had got to that point. I think Gillis anticipated it MIGHT get to that point and the trade was a preemptive strike. I also take Gillis at face value when he said there were a couple of guys he targeted and one of them became available (Kassian), he pulled the trigger.
Both guys are in better situations for them individually now. Is it in Buffalo's best interest as a team to roll forward with Hodgson/Ennis as their top two centres? I don't know about that.
Both guys are in better situations for them individually now. Is it in Buffalo's best interest as a team to roll forward with Hodgson/Ennis as their top two centres? I don't know about that.
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Kelly Hrudey made an excellent point right after the trade sharing his own experience.
He stated that in '84 with the Islanders, they had LaFontaine as a rookie playing behind Tonelli and Sutter as the 3rd line Center. Both of which were 100 pt centers.
He said that LaFontaine was patient, worked hard and eventually took over the top Center spot because eventually if you're good enough your talent is going to shine through. But you have to earn it.
Hodgson appeared to not want to earn it. He wanted it to be given to him.
Kassian for instance was benched in the playoffs. Like Hodgson the year before. He didnt sulk, he worked harder in the summer and earned his spot on the team. Something that makes me like him much more.
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