Barney Gumble
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Nobody said he was stupid. He had others (his dad) do it for him (behind closed doors). I've said it before, he'll make a great politician somebody. A real "teflon man".
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Nobody said he was stupid. He had others (his dad) do it for him (behind closed doors). I've said it before, he'll make a great politician somebody. A real "teflon man".
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Looking out for oneself is anathema to hockey culture. This is why people are questioning his character.
He did something within his rights, but he put himself above his situation. He played along to his own eventual benefit. Selfish behaviour is what outlines his career to this point.
The agents/coach comment is especially poignant. The NHL is littered with players that don't like their coach, and have great agents, yet _most_ of them buy into the big picture. Pay their dues. So much so that when it doesn't occur, it is clearly noticed and outlined. As it is here.
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Looking out for oneself at the expense of team is noted with a red flag in civilian society as well.
Cody Hodgson always seemed to say the right thing as a Canuck. I always took him at face value and believed he was a quality individual... As i often do with people until they prove otherwise.
But at this point, if I have to chose who to believe, I'll believe Gillis.
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Thats fine...all I'm saying is that not everyones "big picture" is the same and that there is a lot of derision over a guy who's only real issue was not wanting to play in Vancouver....for whatever reason. IMO, he's entitled to do whatever he wants with his career, especially if he does it the way Hodgson did where he didn't do anything to de-value himself as an asset to the organization.
screen caps of sad Marchand please 
Did anyone get the one from the Van/Avs game where the Avs record vs us was shown & Av was smirking about something else? Pure gold!
Did anyone get the one from the Van/Avs game where the Avs record vs us was shown & Av was smirking about something else? Pure gold!
Watching Lucic right now, I fully believe Kassian will be better than him by the time he reaches 25.
Kassian just has better fundamental skills like skating, puck-handling, shot, and passing to build on as he develops.
Kassian just has better fundamental skills like skating, puck-handling, shot, and passing to build on as he develops.
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This is the disconnect here, the reasons matter Canucker.
The derision occurs because of the reason. It separates Hodgson from the simple mercenary out to get a buck. Even they go through a few seasons of learning their craft before trying to cash in. For instance, Arnott paid his dues in EDM before forcing himself out.
Hodgson displays entitled, selfish behaviour. Based on the generally accepted norms of the industry in which he works, he is the outlier. His actions are simply unjustified by those standards. As such, he gets the derision I, and many others, think he deserves.
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I don't know about shot, but Kassian does have a lot of tools that are better. Lucic has a better motor and better balance IMO. Lucic is also bigger and stronger. More consistent too I'd say.
"Better" is hard to quantify. I'd say that Kassian has a very real potential to out produce Lucic by the time he hits 25, but I don't think he will be "better" overall.
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Lucic is bigger and stronger because he has about 6 years of training and experience in the NHL. When he was drafted he was 204lbs.
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Kassian certainly has better puck sills than Lucic (IMO at least). But Milan has established himself in the NHL which is the hardest thing for a player to do.
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Kevin Weeks is surpisingly decent for the HotStove. Not terrific but far better than his colour commentary.
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i only watched the last 10 min of the 2nd but i think the leafs are a p fun team to watch
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I know, but he had a wider frame from very early on too. Bigger, stronger, better shot, better motor, better fighter, better balance etc... Kassian has a long way to go to reach what Lucic is doing.
Do you see Kassian bettering 60~ points in the very near future?
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One reason why I don't get why people would want to trade for him, so one-dimensional and, despite the fact he can score goals, when he's not scoring goals, he's absolutely useless.
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