1000x worse. Kadri is highly overrated and couldn't produce playing in the three spot in toronto.
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Jimmy Firecracker
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Out of curiosity I looked up Raycroft’s stats when he was here to compare to current Andersen, but his stats the year before in Boston just make me more confused and angry regarding the trade for him. In 30 games he had a 3.71 GAA and an .879 SV%, and JFJ thought that was worth giving up Rask for? Like I know Rask wasn’t Rask back then but my God was there no better goalie option to trade for?
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The Leafs had Poggie at the time and he was considered equal or better than Rask as a prospect, they gamble on Raycroft becoming a stud goalie again ... and we know how its ended now
Buds17
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Best not to think about this trade and its aftermath as everything that could have possibly went wrong essentially did.
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Pogge won the world juniors behind a stacked Canadian team.
Rask was selected as the best goalie in the same tournament, and was very obviously the better player.
It was a bad decision, and a terrible trade.
Practically everyone thought the Leafs should have signed Legace as a UFA as a stop gap until one or both of Rask and/or Pogge were ready.
Pogge always looked like a Trevor Kidd, even at the WJC. He ended up worse.
Dumbest move and trade, bar none, in my 40 years as a Leaf fan. The trade to bring back Clark which ended up seeing the Islanders draft Luongo with that 1st is not far behind.
again poggie and rask were considered equal prospects at the time, it doesn't matter who won the that award, Poggie had elite numbers in Junior and was CHL goalie of the year... I didn't make the trade, I obviously didn't like the trade years later ... Im just sharing the info i remember from back then
notDatsyuk
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It was the only time they both played in the same tournament, and Rask was clearly better.
I don't recall anyone, except maybe JFJ, who thought Pogge was even as good.
I think JFJ was swayed by Pogge being Canadian.
cmon buddy.... pogge was the starting team canada goalie
2005-2006
- CHL First All-Star Team
- CHL Goaltender of the Week (Nov. 27)
- CHL Goaltender of the Week (Nov. 1)
- CHL Goaltender of the Year
- U20 WJC Best SVS% (.952)
- U20 WJC Gold Medal
- WHL (East) First All-Star Team
- WHL Best GAA (1.72)
- WHL Best SVS% (.926)
- WHL Player of the Year (Four Broncos Trophy)
- WHL Top Goaltender (Del Wilson Trophy)
| Canada U20 | WJC-20 | 6 | 1.00 | .952 | 3 | 6-0- |
| Finland U20 | WJC-20 | 6 | 3.07 | .899 |
Im done with this now, you dont care about facts your just bsing now and trying to win a meaningless convo
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Don’t try to understand it. It didn’t make sense the day the trade was made.
here is just one article fron the Sun, google Rask or Pogge ....
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The trade that sent Tuukka Rask to the Boston Bruins could have been made without the emerging superstar involved.
According to those close to the deal, the Bruins would have happily accepted young goaltender Justin Pogge in exchange for Andrew Raycroft.
The problem at the time was, Leafs general manager John Ferguson was uneasy about moving Pogge, wasn’t convinced Rask was better and wouldn’t agree to move Pogge because he had won the gold medal playing for Team Canada at the world junior championships that year.
Ferguson told his senior staff that “we’d get killed for trading the gold medal goalie,” so he agreed to make the deal with Boston, which was questionable at the time and looks horrendous in retrospect.
Rask has emerged as one of the top goalies of this generation while Pogge, who played this season in Italy, managed just seven NHL games.
The worst part of the Raycroft deal wasn’t how he played for the Leafs. The worst part was finding out later the Bruins would have released him had they not traded him, making him available to the Leafs without any compensation at all.
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That was what I said first: Pogge was the goalie who won behind a stacked Team Canada, but Rask was selected as the best goalie, and was clearly better.
I guess if you didn't watch or read about the world juniors, you might have missed that, and maybe that was why JFJ blew it.
Rask was the one Boston wanted, so they must have been paying attention.
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No, they weren't, and it doesn't justify trading them for a garbage goalie anyway.
i'm not going too and cant debate uninformed opinions with you guys and you guys take these discussions to personal... all the info is out there that proves i am correct, sorry man
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Anyone who believes Kadri was the answer to anything but a trivia question probably should practice what this preaches.
Kadri would look damn good as JT/WN winger and emergency 2nd C depth
hell,,,, a stronger cup favorite is using him as their full time 2c
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That's debatable considering they have played 2/3's of their games thus far against weak teams and haven't looked dominant, especially against the teams that are actually good. At this point they are not even favourites to make it out of their division.
They won't be able to beat up against LA, Anaheim, Arizona, and San Jose when they make the playoffs... And they only have a winning record against Minnesota (3-2) out of the playoff teams right now.
Kadri has also looked mediocre against those good teams, and just pads his stats against the crap teams. Pretty much the case for most of the guys on their team right now.
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Wasn't going to work with the cap here though. Johnsson and Kapanen were cheaper options for the wing last season and Matthews/Tavares should require a certain amount of ice time at centre with the amount they are making.
please drop that cap nonsense,,,,their cap hit is 1m apart
IF our GM can't figure out a way to make 1m cap difference work for a solid #2c/or over the top #3
then he has created massive issues
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Cap aside, Kerfoot's deal runs for a season more and both players were to primarily play the same role (3C). I wouldn't argue against Kadri being the better option beyond that. Of course, I'd also say Kerfoot is preferable to Jankowski.
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