Around the League 44: The Three Thousand Mile Final

[SlavinAway]

Martinook = #hegone... unless Brind'Amour has a say and he somehow gets a 5th year to lower the cap hit... never say never, but I think the Canes may try to find the next Martinook at this point.

It wouldn't surprise me but I'm still holding out hope. Joshua is 4 years younger with similar production to Marty this past season.

 

[A Star is Burns]

There's a decent chance of this being a "buy high" scenario

It certainly could be. He's got a good style of play, but as I recall he doesn't generate a ton of shots. He can maybe get away with it from the dirty areas but he likely will move back down to like 20-25 points and it'll be a meh contract at best.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

It wouldn't surprise me but I'm still holding out hope. Joshua is 4 years younger with similar production to Marty this past season.

True, but also far less of a track record. That contract is a huge gamble on this year being the real Joshua moving forward, and considering shooting percentage, that's asking... a lot. Could work out, though, I won't say never.

 

[Buenos Necas]

$3.25m less for them to spend on Guentzel

 

[SlavinAway]

It certainly could be. He's got a good style of play, but as I recall he doesn't generate a ton of shots. He can maybe get away with it from the dirty areas but he likely will move back down to like 20-25 points and it'll be a meh contract at best.

True, but also far less of a track record. That contract is a huge gamble on this year being the real Joshua moving forward, and considering shooting percentage, that's asking... a lot. Could work out, though, I won't say never.

I don't disagree with either but I think with the cap increases this is going to be closer to the new normal for 3rd to 4th line tweeners with "intangibles"

 

[Tryamw]

Rags fans think they can get a + value asset out of an un-retained Trouba?

I think I should be paid 100k a day...

 

[Discipline Daddy]

With this year's free agency set to be nuts, I'd be pleased as a clam if the Hurricanes can make deals for some of the 2021 and 2022 UFA prices. I hope we sign Guentzel, though, because he is a legitimate PPG forward that I don't think we can replace.

 

[CandyCanes]

Just a reminder Guentzel was on a 120 pt pace during his regular season games with the Canes.

Aho was on a 101 pt pace with Guentzel around.

Jarvis 82 pts.

But we all know Brindy will never play that trio together again.

 

[WreckingCrew]

Just a reminder Guentzel was on a 120 pt pace during his regular season games with the Canes.

Aho was on a 101 pt pace with Guentzel around.

Jarvis 82 pts.

But we all know Brindy will never play that trio together again.

*Canes PP failing miserably and generating nothing*
RBA: "If we just keep doing the same f***ing thing it has to work eventually, right?"

*GAJ struggling for 1 game after lighting it up for 15-20*
RBA: "Time to break these guys up, they're just not working"

 

[Lempo]

*Canes PP failing miserably and generating nothing*
RBA: "If we just keep doing the same f***ing thing it has to work eventually, right?"

*GAJ struggling for 1 game after lighting it up for 15-20*
RBA: "Time to break these guys up, they're just not working"

That's called learning.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Just a reminder Guentzel was on a 120 pt pace during his regular season games with the Canes.

Aho was on a 101 pt pace with Guentzel around.

Jarvis 82 pts.

But we all know Brindy will never play that trio together again.

an ENG every four games is better than Svech levels

 

[Svechhammer]

*Canes PP failing miserably and generating nothing*
RBA: "If we just keep doing the same f***ing thing it has to work eventually, right?"

*GAJ struggling for 1 game after lighting it up for 15-20*
RBA: "Time to break these guys up, they're just not working"

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Nobody is saying he's good defensively. Literally nobody. "Not as bad as many metrics claim because he has elements to his game that aren't traditional defense but have defensive effects" is a totally different argument, and one that is rarely engaged in any sort of good faith. What you are doing is a strawman argument- you pretend your opponents are arguing something they aren't arguing, and then argue against that imagined position, not the one they're actually taking.

Let me be brief and more succinct so as to not be confusing and accused of a straw man.

My view is that his defensive play IS as bad as many metrics claim, and that being good at takeaways doesn't have enough "defensive effects" to offset it. That's the base of what I've been saying for 2 pages now.

It's fine if you disagree, but there is a lot more data that supports it, as well as how coaches have used and deployed him and how many in the media and statistics world (as well as fans) view him.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Verheage re-signing with Florida 8-8.5 million aav

Vancouver with 3 less million a year. Myers staying 3 x 3

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Mangiapane to Washington for a 2025 2nd

 

[NotOpie]

Mangiapane to Washington for a 2025 2nd

Feels like they're gearing up for one last bit at the apple for Ovi.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Feels like they're gearing up for one last bit at the apple for Ovi.

They got to find skaters cuz ovi will just hang in one area of the ice

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Mangiapane to Washington for a 2025 2nd

Weird trade for Calgary. They're only getting Colorado's 2nd because they're dumping all of the $5.8M remaining. I don't think they're planning to spend to the cap this year...are they? Maybe I'm the crazy one, but he seems like a good candidate to retain 50% on in order to get a higher pick from somebody. Conroy and the Flames seem quite conservative with salary retention and bad contracts, though (for example, they took a 2nd and a mediocre prospect for Tanev instead of a 1st from Edmonton because they didn't want the Ceci contract). It might be coming from ownership.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Weird trade for Calgary. They're only getting Colorado's 2nd because they're dumping all of the $5.8M remaining. I don't think they're planning to spend to the cap this year...are they? Maybe I'm the crazy one, but he seems like a good candidate to retain 50% on in order to get a higher pick from somebody.

Honestly unless mang goes back to 21-22 numbers, the best they would get at the deadline is a late 2nd anyways

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Honestly unless mang goes back to 21-22 numbers, the best they would get at the deadline is a late 2nd anyways

I checked their cap books, and they do have Kuzmenko and Sharangovich as guys who they can use a retention slot for. That might be where the Flames want to prioritize salary retention for. Sharangovich in particular could get a large haul at the next deadline.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Someone gave Aho a Hart Vote. Granted, it was a 5th place vote, but what the hell?

Edit: Actually, scratch that. Charlie Lindgren getting a Vezina vote and a Hart vote is far funnier.

 

[Identity404]

Someone gave Aho a Hart Vote. Granted, it was a 5th place vote, but what the hell?

I’m going to go out on a limb and guess it was one of Luke DeCock, Chip Alexander or Justin Pelletier.

 

[Stickpucker]

Maybe it’s just me getting older now but in a way it’s kind of a shame that the one-dimensional players are getting phased out with every young player being so good at everything. Like it was kinda cool in its own way to have such varying skill profiles in the league as like a Brett Hull who couldn’t really skate but was a wizard with the puck or like a Hal Gill who couldn’t really do much with the puck but was good at making life hell for forwards… I know it’s natural evolution and of course every player wants to be well rounded and is coached to be well rounded. Anyway I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time

The same thing happened in mma and I find it much less entertaining.

 

[Stickpucker]

Feels like they're gearing up for one last bit at the apple for Ovi.

Not sure why.

He totally quit on his team in the post season and he never took care of himself even in his prime.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Saros extending with Nashville

Edit: 8 x 7.74

Big oof