Around the League 44: The Three Thousand Mile Final

[Nikishin Go Boom]

boooooooo Mike Grier. claiming Goodrow and giving the Rangers a free out.

 

[cptjeff]

boooooooo Mike Grier. claiming Goodrow and giving the Rangers a free out.

They have the cap room and he's still a good, useful vet with experience in winning organizations. Honestly, smart move for San Jose.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

They have the cap room and he's still a good, useful vet with experience in winning organizations. Honestly, smart move for San Jose.

the dude is a net negative by a good margin. could have easily gotten something for taking on the contract.

 

[cptjeff]

the dude is a net negative by a good margin. could have easily gotten something for taking on the contract.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

dont put in a claim and either tell Rangers pay me something to take this on or buy him out.

the deal was bad from the signing because the Rangers were scared of playing Wilson in the playoffs. doesnt make any sense for SJS to claim him via waivers.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

I wonder if this move was done to dodge Goodrow's NTC. If so, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a second trade of picks and/or prospects for FCs.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

I wonder if this move was done to dodge Goodrow's NTC. If so, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a second trade of picks for FCs.

if so the PA would be all over this as a grievance.

 

[cptjeff]

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dont put in a claim and either tell Rangers pay me something to take this on or buy him out.

the deal was bad from the signing because the Rangers were scared of playing Wilson in the playoffs. doesnt make any sense for SJS to claim him via waivers.

Okay, worse stats over the full year than I had known, but he was very good against us in the playoffs, which is most of what my recent knowledge of him is. And if the Sharks get that version, they'll be happy.

But the Sharks have the cap room, and are holding that cap room available for their young players, they're not signing stars to compete now. There's no opportunity cost in terms of signing other players like there is for competitive teams, they wouldn't have done that regardless. So they get an elite PKer for free. It costs them nothing to do this. Maybe they could have squeezed a mid or late round pick out of the Rangers, but ultimately, whatever. Free is free. There's no possible downside for the Sharks.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Okay, worse stats over the full year than I had known, but he was very good against us in the playoffs, which is most of what my recent knowledge of him is. And if the Sharks get that version, they'll be happy.

But the Sharks have the cap room, and are holding that cap room available for their young players, they're not signing stars to compete now. They get an elite PKer for free. It costs them nothing to do this. Maybe they could have squeezed a mid or late round pick out of the Rangers, but ultimately, whatever.

playoff success for the worst team in the league seems pretty irrelevant. Add in he was still owned in 5v5 play despite having a ridiculous 40% shooting percentage.

its a bad move for a team that should be holding other teams hostage for cap space in order to increase their changes of drafting diamonds on the rough in the mid rounds. Grier is just helping out a former working buddy.

 

[ElmCityGuy]

the dude is a net negative by a good margin. could have easily gotten something for taking on the contract.

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[cptjeff]

playoff success for the worst team in the league seems pretty irrelevant. Add in he was still owned in 5v5 play despite having a ridiculous 40% shooting percentage.

its a bad move for a team that should be holding other teams hostage for cap space in order to increase their changes of drafting diamonds on the rough in the mid rounds. Grier is just helping out a former working buddy.

You don't think leadership from a guy who's won two cups and a President's Trophy isn't helpful for the development of young players?

And not everything is about being as cutthroat as possible. San Jose gets a guy they think can be a leader for their kids who's still a useful 3rd/4th liner for free. The Rangers get rid of a contract that was hurting them. Both teams win.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

You don't think leadership from a guy who's won two cups and a President's Trophy isn't helpful for the development of young players?

And not everything is about being as cutthroat as possible. San Jose gets a guy they think can be a leader for their kids who's still a useful 3rd/4th liner for free. The Rangers get rid of a contract that was hurting them. Both teams win.

there is a fine line at doing what is best for your organization and being too cut throat that your peers wont trade with you. But Grier couldnt even see the line. I didnt say he should have demanded 2 1sts to dump the contract. But he should have gotten a couple of mid round picks. i dont think that is too much or being too cut throat.

 

[bleedgreen]

They have the cap room and he's still a good, useful vet with experience in winning organizations. Honestly, smart move for San Jose.

They’ll probably move him to a contender at a deadline for a profit.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Winnipeg made Blake look foolish on the PLD trade. PLD to Washington for Keumper 1 for 1 is a big value loss for the Kings.

 

[A Star is Burns]

Kuemper for PLD. Offseason drunk already.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

They’ll probably move him to a contender at a deadline for a profit.

he has 3 more years on his deal and SJ has no more retention spots until 25-26.

 

[bleedgreen]

he has 3 more years on his deal and SJ has no more retention spots until 25-26.

“A” deadline. Deadlines are also crazy, someone may take him earlier than the end of the contract. This is not a bad move.

 

[Brock Anton]

Can't blame these GM's to start making moves before the Finals are over because the NHL decided to have 3 years inbetween each game.

Also, the Goodrow thing to me, is easy to figure out. San Jose claims him, buys him out and he re-signs with NYR at a cheaper rate a la Orpik did with COL/WSH. The Rangers and Sharks then probably make another deal that gives SJ an asset for scraps.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

How do the Caps buy CapFriendly and then make a trade for PLD? Do they not know his caphit?

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

I can see why Washington does that PLD trade. With one move and with no assets spent, their forward group around Ovechkin is so much younger now. It's a huge red flag, though, that LA is dumping him so quickly after he signed that extension. The Caps are going to have plenty of cap space as they go through a retool phase, though, so the contract probably isn't as burdensome for Washington than for a cap ceiling club like LA.

 

[Brock Anton]

How do the Caps buy CapFriendly and then make a trade for PLD? Do they not know his caphit?

Their refusal to admit/realize that their run is over makes me very happy.

 

[CanesUltimate11]

Two days in-between these games is f***ing dumb.

Still think Florida wins, but it’s definitely going 7.

Yeah, if you're going to have an extra day for travel then go back to a 2-3-2 series.

 

[Brock Anton]

Yeah, if you're going to have an extra day for travel then go back to a 2-3-2 series.

I much prefer the 2-3-2 format. To me, it feels like an actual home ice advantage for the higher seed.

 

[Tryamw]

How do the Caps buy CapFriendly and then make a trade for PLD? Do they not know his caphit?

Maybe they aren't able to access the site until it's final

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

The league loves a big center.

The spin a certain fanbase tries to put on Kotkaniemi, that he's one of the worst contracts in the league, is bullshit.