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Kuz @50% would work and be the type of deal our FO does.
Around the League 39: Will Kessel Sign in Winnipeg? The World Waits with Dogged Breath!
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AD Skinner
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What is the kuznetsov birdman celly if not a one man storm surge
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Our D already scored more than anyone last year. That is hard to improve on. Eventually they'll get tired.
offseasons is always the time for optimism....in season brings the reality.
I agree with you though.
bleedgreen
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I’m glad we’re out on Tank. I never saw a good fit with us.
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Maybe I'm way off but seems like Swayman's ask isn't unreasonable here. Curious how this one works out.
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Yeah, I don't know what the history or useable comparables are at this point, but it seems reasonable to me. I guess maybe the one-year nature of it makes it seem a little high. But if they'd done one of those like three-year deals that a lot of the goalies got in recent years and it was for Swayman's ask on AAV, I'd be like, yeah, sure. Much better than I felt about the Spencer Knight deal (just based on play, not any issues he may have dealt with this past season).
cptjeff
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Definitely a massive lowball from Boston. Given the sample size I don't know if $4.8m is quite right, but if I'm the arbitrator I'm probably coming down at least somewhere in that 3.5-4m range, and I could be convinced to go higher. Even with only two real seasons under his belt he's a guy with the skill be a starter for most teams in the league, and before Andersen got his game back in the playoffs was my #1 goalie target.
TheReelChuckFletcher
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Boston's playing the "meet in the middle" game with the arb guy. They don't actually think he's only worth $2M this year! 
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DaveG
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4.8 seems high but that Boston offer seems ridiculously low. Somewhere in the 3.5-4M range is probably realistic. If Swayman maybe only had Kochetkov's GP amount under his belt than 2M would make sense, but he has over 3 times that with a solid track record to date.
DaveG
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If true, surprising he took Sens:
Nikishin Go Boom
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I dont htink it is that surprising? Out of the Sens and Canes, which system is going to set him up for a better payday next off-season?
Its the Sens by a good margin. They dont really care about defense that much so Tarasenko should get higher goal totals.
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cptjeff
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Arbitrators aren't that dumb, and if you go too far and they'll just ignore you.Boston's playing the "meet in the middle" game with the arb guy. They don't actually think he's only worth $2M this year!
I'd love to see the NHL adopt the MLB system. The arbitrator can't split the difference, they have to choose the player or the team proposal. Tends to put a stop to stupid shit like this.
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Might be they want a settlement hard and try to persuade him this way to take the higher meeting in the middle through a settlement than what they present as the mathematical meeting in the middle for the arbitration.Boston's playing the "meet in the middle" game with the arb guy. They don't actually think he's only worth $2M this year!
If they go to the hearing, this number is what BOS has to provide the evidence for. It's a recipe for irrepairable disagreements for the future.
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tarheelhockey
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That sounds about right. Canes were looking for the bargain deal as usual.
If it's true that the agent was pushing him toward Carolina, the firing makes more sense. Agent was likely thinking of him being platformed for a deep Cup run on a successful team, Vlad just wanted to get cash in hand immediately. Can't blame him for thinking that way, it's millions of dollars.
TheReelChuckFletcher
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Platforming CAN work sometimes. See the famous Marian Hossa example of signing for a cup-contending Detroit outfit for a year and then hitting the UFA jackpot in Chicago. More recently, Mike Hoffman successfully did something similar with the St. Louis Blues not too long ago. But it's a giant risk that most players won't take, because there are numerous examples of it failing, most famously in the Kariya/Selanne saga in Colorado pre-salary cap. Part of me wonders, though, if Tarasenko is making the same mistake that Klingberg did last year playing in Anaheim. The difference, though, is that Ottawa is a MUCH better team.
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I agree, I didn't see Vlad as a fit.
I'm still on the Brock Boeser wagon. I think there's a mutual fit that could happen with Vancouver getting one of our defenseman and us getting Boeser and other pieces being exchanged. We could possibly get retention there on BB or get a semi-valuable piece coming back given that BB probably has 0 value in the flat cap environment, and it'd get Vancouver out of a super tight cap situation.
Heck, I'm still on the Adam Henrique wagon from last season, but I can't see us committing to another C at this point. We could use the winger more.
I'm still on the Brock Boeser wagon. I think there's a mutual fit that could happen with Vancouver getting one of our defenseman and us getting Boeser and other pieces being exchanged. We could possibly get retention there on BB or get a semi-valuable piece coming back given that BB probably has 0 value in the flat cap environment, and it'd get Vancouver out of a super tight cap situation.
Heck, I'm still on the Adam Henrique wagon from last season, but I can't see us committing to another C at this point. We could use the winger more.
AD Skinner
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I still think it couldn’t hurt to see what kessel would want. All he does is score everywhere he goes
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