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[Brock Anton]

Rod and Mogilny aside ... how the f*** do Vernon and Barrasso get in over Cujo?

If we're putting those guys in, then Osgood is a HOFer.

 

[Francis10]

How many years do players have to get voted in? How many is Rod at now?

 

[Blueline Bomber]

How many years do players have to get voted in? How many is Rod at now?

I believe this was year 17 for Barasso, so at least that long

 

[Bub]

Here I was thinking Turgeon was already in...

 

[Sigurd]

No Rod this year.

Hitchcock, Lacroix, Ouellette, Barrasso, Lundqvist, Turgeon, Vernon

The disrespect to Rod continues another year.

It really doesn't make sense IMO.

 

[Joe McGrath]

On the plus side now I have a clip on my phone of me scoring on a one timer from hockey hall of famer Pierre Turgeon.

(He does stick time at my local rink and is still in ridiculous shape)

 

[Identity404]

Lundqvist gets in on his first year of eligibility? Really?

 

[Joe McGrath]

Lundqvist gets in on his first year of eligibility? Really?

He was the best goalie in the league for like a decade.

 

[Svechhammer]

The disrespect to Rod continues another year.

It really doesn't make sense IMO.

Its absolutely personal against him. Someone said that Lindros is on the committee. If that's true, there's your reason on why he'll likely never get in.

I mean seriously, Carbonneau and Mike Vernon are in the HoF but Brindy isn't? lol GTFO

 

[A Star is Burns]

I'm actually glad to see goalies getting in because it has always seemed underrepresented to me. It'd be great to see Rod get in, and I believe he deserves it, not I'm not holding my breath.

 

[Brock Anton]

Lundqvist gets in on his first year of eligibility? Really?

It's not even controversial to me, he's very much deserving to be a first ballot HOFer.

Lack of hardware shouldn't be held against him (much like Cujo) because of the incompetence put in front of him at times.

 

[DaveG]

Rod and Mogilny aside ... how the f*** do Vernon and Barrasso get in over Cujo?

If we're putting those guys in, then Osgood is a HOFer.

Barrasso won the Calder and Vezina as an 18yo, 3 2nd place finishes in Vezina voting and a 3rd, a Jennings, 1st or 2nd team AS 3 times, 2 cups, all time points leader among goalies in almost 500 games fewer played than 2nd place. He would have been in years ago if it wasn't for the fact that the guys that usually vote on this stuff absolutely hate his guts and the feeling was more than mutual on his part.

Here I was thinking Turgeon was already in...

Yep, another guy that should have been in LONG ago. The ridiculousness that some people held it against him that he didn't get involved in one of the darkest moments in tournament history in the WJC kept him out for the longest time.

How many years do players have to get voted in? How many is Rod at now?

there is no limit. Dick Duff got in something like 35 years after he retired

 

[SvechneJerk]

I believe this was year 17 for Barasso, so at least that long

17, you say?

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Its absolutely personal against him. Someone said that Lindros is on the committee. If that's true, there's your reason on why he'll likely never get in.

I mean seriously, Carbonneau and Mike Vernon are in the HoF but Brindy isn't? lol GTFO

Lindros is not on the committee -- but Ron Francis is.

HHOF | Selection Committee

Featuring the by-laws and complete list of current and former members of the Selection Committee.

www.hhof.com

 

[cptjeff]

Its absolutely personal against him. Someone said that Lindros is on the committee. If that's true, there's your reason on why he'll likely never get in.

I mean seriously, Carbonneau and Mike Vernon are in the HoF but Brindy isn't? lol GTFO

HHOF | Selection Committee

Featuring the by-laws and complete list of current and former members of the Selection Committee.

www.hhof.com

No, Lindros is not on the committee. Bobby Clarke was, but retired last year.

 

[A Star is Burns]

I still personally think it's goofy to have such a small collection of folks choosing.

Maybe give this sooper special committee a high weight in voting or something, but allow more votes to keep weird shit from hopefully happening.

 

[Joe McGrath]

I’d like to think Francis isn’t so petty that he’s not the face of the Hurricanes that he thought he was going to be. But I’m struggling for another answer now that ANOTHER Francis guy gets in under his watch.

 

[CandyCanes]

Another Hurricane finally makes the hall of fame! The one we were all hoping for, Tom Barasso!!

 

[DaveG]

I still personally think it's goofy to have such a small collection of folks choosing.

Maybe give this sooper special committee a high weight in voting or something, but allow more votes to keep weird shit from hopefully happening.

I mean, we're prettymuch already at that point. Dick Duff, Phil Housley, Kevin Lowe. I think we're at the point (and it would not in any way surprise me if it happens) where Eric Staal somehow gets in before Rod does.

 

[Svechhammer]

I’d like to think Francis isn’t so petty that he’s not the face of the Hurricanes that he thought he was going to be. But I’m struggling for another answer now that ANOTHER Francis guy gets in under his watch.

I've heard many whispers in the past that Brindy being held out of the HoF is more about a personal vendetta rather than anything to do with his on ice play. I always thought it was someone with the Flyers, but really... You very well could be right about this. Everyone associated with Francis seems to hold some kind of vendetta against the team, from journalists to guys like Eddie O on broadcasts, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if he's a major reason why Brindy is frozen out right now.

 

[chaz4hockey]

I've heard many whispers in the past that Brindy being held out of the HoF is more about a personal vendetta rather than anything to do with his on ice play. I always thought it was someone with the Flyers, but really... You very well could be right about this. Everyone associated with Francis seems to hold some kind of vendetta against the team, from journalists to guys like Eddie O on broadcasts, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if he's a major reason why Brindy is frozen out right now.

Mike Gartner, Chair
David Branch
Brian Burke
Cassie Campbell-Pascall
Mark Chipman
Marc de Foy
Ron Francis
Cammi Granato
Anders Hedberg
Jari Kurri
Igor Larionov
Pierre McGuire
Bob McKenzie
Scott Morrison
Mike Murphy
David Poile
Luc Robitaille
Joe Sakic

Seems like a nice diversified group of decision makers with NA, Euros, Mgt. & women's hockey represented. I don't know who RBA would have PO'd in this group however.

I wouldn't have selected Vernon but I don't have heartburn on the others.

 

[A Star is Burns]

I mean, we're prettymuch already at that point. Dick Duff, Phil Housley, Kevin Lowe. I think we're at the point (and it would not in any way surprise me if it happens) where Eric Staal somehow gets in before Rod does.

Yeah, I mean more going forward. It definitely already happens.

 

[raynman]

Mike Gartner, Chair
David Branch
Brian Burke
Cassie Campbell-Pascall
Mark Chipman
Marc de Foy
Ron Francis
Cammi Granato
Anders Hedberg
Jari Kurri
Igor Larionov
Pierre McGuire
Bob McKenzie
Scott Morrison
Mike Murphy
David Poile
Luc Robitaille
Joe Sakic

Seems like a nice diversified group of decision makers with NA, Euros, Mgt. & women's hockey represented. I don't know who RBA would have PO'd in this group however.

I wouldn't have selected Vernon but I don't have heartburn on the others.

Does it have to be a unanimous vote to get in?

 

[Blueline Bomber]

HHOF | Selection Committee

Featuring the by-laws and complete list of current and former members of the Selection Committee.

www.hhof.com

No, Lindros is not on the committee. Bobby Clarke was, but retired last year.

Clarke was the GM when RBA and Lindros had their altercation, yeah?

 

[DaveG]

Does it have to be a unanimous vote to get in?

no, not sure what the criteria is but I think it's somewhere around the baseball total of 75%