GDT: Around The League 24/25. Preseason ends, the regular season begins!!

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

There's a point where I just can't take joy in the suffering of others anymore. This team really needs to put it together and quick because they aren't sneaking up on anyone this year.

I always take joy in a Leafs or Flames loss. In fact add Vegas to the list.

As for our Oiler team I was not expecting a fast start after seeing yet another blown preseason by yet another coach. But I didn’t anticipate 2-4-1 however the next 4 games they better turn it around. Not the toughest of competition.

Seems gutting the right side of the D and losing the finals in the last game is proving to be a tougher hurdle for the boys than they thought.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

the Oilers have been one of the favorites for a few years now...they haven't "snuck" up on anyone in a long time

I think last year because of their slow start they caught teams off guard and even I think the Dallas Stars underestimated their ability to play defense and smother them.

I always take joy in a Leafs or Flames loss. In fact add Vegas to the list.

As for our Oiler team I was not expecting a fast start after seeing yet another blown preseason by yet another coach. But I didn’t anticipate 2-4-1 however the next 4 games they better turn it around. Not the toughest of competition.

Seems gutting the right side of the D and losing the finals in the last game is proving to be a tougher hurdle for the boys than they thought.

I think it's amusing that the Flames keep winning because I get to see the despair in some of my friends who root for them, knowing that the Flames will inevitably end up with a terrible draft pick.

 

[FlameChampion]

I wish we were as good as the Flames and Jets.

I guess we should have kept McLeod, Broberg and Holloway.

Maybe look at bringing Hall, Yam Fries and Pulju back as well.

I don’t think we would be any better with McLeod, Broberg and Holloway personally. But I think it raises another question. Seems like players who leave here are more productive. And the players that come here are less productive. Why?

 

[Jumptheshark]

Former Oiler Moe Lemay passed away a few days ago. Mostly known as a canuck he won a cup with the oilers. Sounds like with many former Nhlers he life went sideways after the game was done

 

[Roderek]

I don’t think we would be any better with McLeod, Broberg and Holloway personally. But I think it raises another question. Seems like players who leave here are more productive. And the players that come here are less productive. Why?

Down by a goal or 2 other teams still play their bottom 6 until late in the third. Down by a goal or two the Oilers play their top line, with a few of the second line thrown in.
highest ice times last night

Oilers
Bouchard 28:37
McDavid 25:37
Draisitle 23:53
Ekholm 23:30
Nuge 23:05
Hyman 21:25

Canes
Slavin 24:42
Burns 24:23
Aho 22:49
Orlov 20:34
Necas 19:50
Gostisbehere 19:11

Keeping in mind the Canes Trailed for over 40 min.

Canes being able to spread the ice time across all skaters keeps them all engaged, likely gives more confidence. If I am a bottom 6 players on this Oilers team, I am likely playing to just keep the puck out of my net, as opposed to be willing to try to make an offensive skill play. If the other teams scores, I likely don't see the ice again for 5-8 min at least.

anyone who has played sports understands it is hard to stay engaged, when you spend more time on the bench, and you begin to second guess yourself.

McDavid/Drai need to only be around the 19-21 min/game. Nuge and Hyman should be 17-20 add a minute or two depending on special team roles in the specific game.

Its no super surprising guys that go to other teams and get more minutes, opportunities then they had in Edmonton go on to play better, or produce more.

 

[Oilhawks]

I always take joy in a Leafs or Flames loss. In fact add Vegas to the list.

As for our Oiler team I was not expecting a fast start after seeing yet another blown preseason by yet another coach. But I didn’t anticipate 2-4-1 however the next 4 games they better turn it around. Not the toughest of competition.

Seems gutting the right side of the D and losing the finals in the last game is proving to be a tougher hurdle for the boys than they thought.

It might be time for them to get over it.

 

[FlameChampion]

Down by a goal or 2 other teams still play their bottom 6 until late in the third. Down by a goal or two the Oilers play their top line, with a few of the second line thrown in.
highest ice times last night

Oilers
Bouchard 28:37
McDavid 25:37
Draisitle 23:53
Ekholm 23:30
Nuge 23:05
Hyman 21:25

Canes
Slavin 24:42
Burns 24:23
Aho 22:49
Orlov 20:34
Necas 19:50
Gostisbehere 19:11

Keeping in mind the Canes Trailed for over 40 min.

Canes being able to spread the ice time across all skaters keeps them all engaged, likely gives more confidence. If I am a bottom 6 players on this Oilers team, I am likely playing to just keep the puck out of my net, as opposed to be willing to try to make an offensive skill play. If the other teams scores, I likely don't see the ice again for 5-8 min at least.

anyone who has played sports understands it is hard to stay engaged, when you spend more time on the bench, and you begin to second guess yourself.

McDavid/Drai need to only be around the 19-21 min/game. Nuge and Hyman should be 17-20 add a minute or two depending on special team roles in the specific game.

Its no super surprising guys that go to other teams and get more minutes, opportunities then they had in Edmonton go on to play better, or produce more.

Agreed with post. Between the management, coaching and leadership core, no one trust anyone to do their job. With this forward group, they should be able to run at least 3 lines (and fourth line has been serviceable so far). But they simply never do this. There’s nothing besides winning that pulls this group together.

 

[FlameChampion]

Does the NHL think its good marketing to have 1 game Monday, 16 games Tuesday and 1 game Wednesday?

Maybe I don’t understand how this stuff works but seems bizarre to me.

 

[Oilhawks]

Does the NHL think its good marketing to have 1 game Monday, 16 games Tuesday and 1 game Wednesday?

Maybe I don’t understand how this stuff works but seems bizarre to me.

The NHL doesn't understand marketing

 

[Drivesaitl]

Does the NHL think its good marketing to have 1 game Monday, 16 games Tuesday and 1 game Wednesday?

Maybe I don’t understand how this stuff works but seems bizarre to me.

Yep. NHL continuing to do this except worse now. One night the max is on 16 games and the bookend nights only one game. LIke WTF. I can basically watch one game live and monitor another. So that that having several games on simultaneously is wasted viewers. Content should be on every night, and not just one game. What is the rationale for the NHL doing this.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Yep. NHL continuing to do this except worse now. One night the max is on 16 games and the bookend nights only one game. LIke WTF. I can basically watch one game live and monitor another. So that that having several games on simultaneously is wasted viewers. Content should be on every night, and not just one game. What is the rationale for the NHL doing this.

The 16 games is an ESPN driven event where they bounce from one game to the other and being able to show every ending as they all start 15 minutes apart and theoretically end roughly similar. It’s like the Amazon Prime Coast to Coast thing airing only in Canada on Thursdays.

Not saying I agree with it but answering the question about what’s going on.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Caps have 4 goals on 10 shots
Philly goaltending is horrific

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Caps have 4 goals on 10 shots
Philly goaltending is horrific

I thought they had 2 Russian all stars in net.

 

[harpoon]

Caps have 4 goals on 10 shots
Philly goaltending is horrific

Meh. First and fourth goals were deflections. Very little chance especially on the first one. Third goal was a breakaway from the blue line in. Second goal you’d definitely want a save there. Actually I think the two goals Thompson has let in were both worse than any of the goals Philly gave up except for the second one. That first one by Konecny was brutal. A Skinner special.

 

[Drivesaitl]

The 16 games is an ESPN driven event where they bounce from one game to the other and being able to show every ending as they all start 15 minutes apart and theoretically end roughly similar. It’s like the Amazon Prime Coast to Coast thing airing only in Canada on Thursdays.

Not saying I agree with it but answering the question about what’s going on.

i don't have prime so have never seen it or the ESPN thing. Not my cup of tea. Prefer to watch a game or two, and focus on those. Thanks for the answer. It seems for people that are just casual fans. If I want short segments or recaps of games can just get that online.

 

[bringbacktheskate604]

I thought they had 2 Russian all stars in net.

Errson looks like a future star, imho. At least whenever I've watched him

 

[McAsuno]

The NHL doesn't understand marketing

That's why they lag behind significantly to the NBA and NFL in a lot of aspects.
Imagine you have a generational player in Connor McDavid similar to LeBron James with the NBA, but continuously fail to market him properly as the actual de facto face of the league. Don't get me started on last year's horrific NHL awards either with that cringe ass of a host they hired either.

 

[Oilhawks]

That's why they lag behind significantly to the NBA and NFL in a lot of aspects.
Imagine you have a generational player in Connor McDavid similar to LeBron James with the NBA, but continuously fail to market him properly as the actual de facto face of the league. Don't get me started on last year's horrific NHL awards either with that cringe ass of a host they hired either.

They're far more interested in leveling the playing field for plugs and propping up wasteland franchises than actually growing the game.

 

[McAsuno]

They're far more interested in leveling the playing field for plugs and propping up wasteland franchises than actually growing the game.

A bunch of stubborn farts in the NHL too.
Fans: We don't want boring ass shootouts anymore. Keep it 3on3 OT until somebody scores.
NHL: No!
Fans: We would like preseason to be max 4-5 games as it takes forever for the regular season to start.
NHL: Nah!

I can list plenty more, but all Bettman likes to do is jerk these expansion teams off and it starts with those LTIR shitters in VGK.