Around the League 2024-25 season

[kingsfan28]

JFresh not a fan

How was this guy drafted 2 OA? The scouting reports all whiffed on their projections.

 

[AbsentMojo]

How was this guy drafted 2 OA? The scouting reports all whiffed on their projections.

Very odd draft..what would top 3 re-draft look like? Hughes, Boldy, Seider

 

[Herby]

Kakko has 14 points this season in 30 games. Byfield has 13 points in 31 games.

Putting that out their for perspective for these second overall duds.

If you are in an organization for six seasons (like KK was) and you are at this level, the odds of ever achieving anything that even resembles a positive ROI for a #2 pick are extremely long.

If QB is at this level next season, this is probably what the return would be. If the Kings want to pull the ejector seat, this years deadline might be the last chance to do so and get any kind of return.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

If you are in an organization for six seasons (like KK was) and you are at this level, the odds of ever achieving anything that even resembles a positive ROI for a #2 pick are extremely long.

If QB is at this level next season, this is probably what the return would be. If the Kings want to pull the ejector seat, this years deadline might be the last chance to do so and get any kind of return.

That's exactly why I'm so concerned with his performance this season. QB is in his fifth season and isn't proving his worth with his new contract.

His continuous struggles with consistency is worrying. The Rangers waited and waited with Kakko, and look what he goes for today.

Imagine trading Byfield next year for the equivalent of Ryan Lindgren and two middling picks.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

If you are in an organization for six seasons (like KK was) and you are at this level, the odds of ever achieving anything that even resembles a positive ROI for a #2 pick are extremely long.

If QB is at this level next season, this is probably what the return would be. If the Kings want to pull the ejector seat, this years deadline might be the last chance to do so and get any kind of return.

Is there anyone on this team you guys don’t want to trade after a loss?

 

[Herby]

Is there anyone on this team you guys don’t want to trade after a loss?

Who else have I advocated trading?

It's simply saying that if QB doesn't improve, this would be the return on him next season, and it's something the Kings have to consider as they try and improve the team for a playoff run this season. I know you think any player who is under 30 is still "just a kid", but the trades recently made show otherwise.

I know you hate having anything that resembles a discussion on hockey, but some people do, so why do you insert yourself into every discussion with your pathetic one-line posts that add nothing to the discussion?

 

[johnjm22]

That's exactly why I'm so concerned with his performance this season. QB is in his fifth season and isn't proving his worth with his new contract.

His continuous struggles with consistency is worrying. The Rangers waited and waited with Kakko, and look what he goes for today.

Imagine trading Byfield next year for the equivalent of Ryan Lindgren and two middling picks.

Kaako has never flashed the level of skill that Byfield has at the NHL level.

With QB, I see what I've seen from many other young players who turned into good NHLers. Occasional flashes of skill, but not yet put it together consistently. It's not a linear process.

Obviously, considering his draft position you want more at this point, and this year is concerning, but I'm still a believer.

 

[SaltyElkHunter]

Drury just killed the reclamation market lol

 

[Omni Owl]

Its not looking good for Q development or value wise. I'm wondering if he's putting too much pressure on himself with the new contract looming overhead? This is why I keep harping about acquiring another good center, the grim Q situation.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

Who else have I advocated trading?

It's simply saying that if QB doesn't improve, this would be the return on him next season, and it's something the Kings have to consider as they try and improve the team for a playoff run this season. I know you think any player who is under 30 is still "just a kid", but the trades recently made show otherwise.

I know you hate having anything that resembles a discussion on hockey, but some people do, so why do you insert yourself into every discussion with your pathetic one-line posts that add nothing to the discussion?

For years, you guys have bitched and moaned about the org ‘not playing the kids’….now the lineup is filled with them and you guys are ready to ship their asses out if they aren’t on a PPG pace. It’s hilarious.

Who are you trading Byfield for that would satisfy your standards?

 

[Herby]

For years, you guys have bitched and moaned about the org ‘not playing the kids’….now the lineup is filled with them and you guys are ready to ship their asses out if they aren’t on a PPG pace. It’s hilarious.

Who are you trading Byfield for that would satisfy your standards?

I don't know. It's called setting the table for others to discuss it, you know that is what happens at a forum, and if you don't wish to discuss it you don't have to.

Here we have an example of a player similarly touted as QB (and only a year older) being traded for a 3rd, 6th and a depth player, had he been traded at this time last year the return certainly would have been higher. So why is it off limits to discuss the disappointing #2 pick in 2020 being traded the same day the disappointing #2 pick of 2019 was?

Maybe we should all check with you and your alter ego SN to see what is and isn't acceptable?

 

[unicornpig]

we all like to shit on blake's rebuild, but it at least it aint rangers bad haha

 

[johnjm22]

Cozens is the one I'd be targeting if I was Blake. He seems like the exact type who's game pops as soon as he gets a change of scenery. Could potentially help the Kings in the short term and the long term.

Wish we could do Fiala straight up, but Kev ain't gonna waive that clause for Buffalo.

Despite the critics of Moore around here, he's legit good, scoring at a 53pts pace, and locked up to a low cap hit. He might make some sense for Buffalo in a potential trade. They need to save money, but they also need guys who can help now, not just prospects. They'd want Spence or Clarke, but that doesn't make sense for us.

Cozens-Kopitar-Kempe
Foegle-Byfield-Laferriere
Turcotte-Danault-Fiala
Lee-Helenius-Jeannot/Lewis

If Cozens is rejuvenated and Danault/Byfield get their heads out of their asses it's a real nice forward group. Would have to fenagle that cap some.

 

[SaltyElkHunter]

we all like to shit on blake's rebuild, but it at least it aint rangers bad haha

If they were trains they would be pacing each other lol

 

[Maynard]

We want Q to be great but it’s tough to tell if HE even wants it. There’s something missing and it ain’t skill, speed, or size.

 

[Herby]

Cozens is the one I'd be targeting if I was Blake. He seems like the exact type who's game pops as soon as he gets a change of scenery. Could potentially help the Kings in the short term and the long term.

Wish we could do Fiala straight up, but Kev ain't gonna waive that clause for Buffalo.

Despite the critics of Moore around here, he's legit good, scoring at a 53pts pace, and locked up to a low cap hit. He might make some sense for Buffalo in a potential trade. They need to save money, but they also need guys who can help now, not just prospects. They'd want Spence or Clarke, but that doesn't make sense for us.

Cozens-Kopitar-Kempe
Foegle-Byfield-Laferriere
Turcotte-Danault-Fiala
Lee-Helenius-Jeannot/Lewis

If Cozens is rejuvenated and Danault/Byfield get their heads out of their asses it's a real nice forward group. Would have to fenagle that cap some.

Moore is probably too old for Buffalo. They would probably be looking for draft picks + prospects way more than they'd want a guy who turns 30 in a couple of months.

We want Q to be great but it’s tough to tell if HE even wants it. There’s something missing and it ain’t skill, speed, or size.

It's game sense, it was always going to be the biggest obstacle for him, especially if they keep him at center.

 

[johnjm22]

Moore is probably too old for Buffalo. They would probably be looking for draft picks + prospects way more than they'd want a guy who turns 30 in a couple of months.

No they're not. They're looking for guys who can play now.

 

[BaileyFan]

we all like to shit on blake's rebuild, but it at least it aint rangers bad haha

Kings and Rangers have followed the same organizational trajectories. Both bottomed out with high picks in ‘19 and ‘20, said f*** it to the rebuild and just got a bunch of old guys, and killed their formerly top-rated prospect pool. Only difference is that they got a goalie first. If it wasn’t for Igor they’d have been one and done just like us.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Wonder how these losers feel now.

 

[johnjm22]

Kings and Rangers have followed the same organizational trajectories. Both bottomed out with high picks in ‘19 and ‘20, said f*** it to the rebuild and just got a bunch of old guys, and killed their formerly top-rated prospect pool. Only difference is that they got a goalie first. If it wasn’t for Igor they’d have been one and done just like us.

Rangers had tremendous luck. Back to back top 2 picks from doing really well in the lottery.

They also had a #1 defenseman fall into their lap.

 

[Maynard]

Kings and Rangers have followed the same organizational trajectories. Both bottomed out with high picks in ‘19 and ‘20, said f*** it to the rebuild and just got a bunch of old guys, and killed their formerly top-rated prospect pool. Only difference is that they got a goalie first. If it wasn’t for Igor they’d have been one and done just like us.

The other difference was Panarin wanted to sign there so they said f*** a rebuild and signed him. We did the same thing with Danault!

 

[BigKing]

We want Q to be great but it’s tough to tell if HE even wants it. There’s something missing and it ain’t skill, speed, or size.

He acts like a wimp out there. Gets a high stick and it is a yard sale. Any little bump and he is on the bench rubbing where it hurts and letting everyone know that something happened to him.

Needs to have that dog in him but I haven't seen it yet or, if I have, it is so fleeting that I'm not recalling it right now. I'm not questioning that he wants to win or whatever, but does he have what it takes to be that guy. When asking that question, you have to ask the question of if he knows what it takes and has being brought up in this team's culture why he doesn't know.

I will say that he should park the diamond necklace in a safe until he plays better. Looking like Omar Epps in Major League II right now.

 

[unicornpig]

Drury just killed the reclamation market lol

dont worry Blake will return it to overpayments again, or is that just him.....

 

[King'sPawn]

Wonder how these losers feel now.

That's still not nearly as cringey as this: Church of Kakko

Way too much was foisted on the kid before he was even drafted. Hopefully he gets a clean slate.