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Evilhomer

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windycity said:
I'd add that the 10 year deferral payout period Vatrano took is for state tax reasons. A State can't go after deferred compensation if you have left that state and take the payments out over 10 years. So California can't go after that money if he moves to say Florida that has no state income tax. So it wouldn't have worked tax-wise if it was less than 10.
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Good point, and it highlights that this sort of arrangement is very specific to the player and his situation. It won't be an across the board thing. For instance, while deferred salary might be an option for Tavares, the fact that he would receive deferred money in Canada, at our lovely tax rates, doesn't do him much good.
 
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Lightsol

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LeafsNet said:
What the hell happened to the rangers?
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I just got a chuckle out of a rather interesting outlier; the Rangers actually are 10th in wins; the only reason they're as far down in the standings as they are is because a bunch of teams down there have a bunch of OT losses.
 
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Evilhomer said:
Good point, and it highlights that this sort of arrangement is very specific to the player and his situation. It won't be an across the board thing. For instance, while deferred salary might be an option for Tavares, the fact that he would receive deferred money in Canada, at our lovely tax rates, doesn't do him much good.
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I'm guessing it ain't great for JT at all. If he has this big successful real estate portfolio I've read about here he's much better off pumping money into that (today) than waiting 10 years for a pension.

I'm hoping it's more of a 'this is how things are going to go' situation. If deferred monies is part of that it's likely less extreme than Vatrano though.
 

Legion34

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LeafEgo said:
I'm guessing it ain't great for JT at all. If he has this big successful real estate portfolio I've read about here he's much better off pumping money into that (today) than waiting 10 years for a pension.

I'm hoping it's more of a 'this is how things are going to go' situation. If deferred monies is part of that it's likely less extreme than Vatrano though.
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Deferred money (I think) doesn’t have to be in a pension like the Allan Walsh way

Jt could sign a deal like Vatrano and get SB on July 1 the year his contract ends.

I’m assuming a 35 year old doesn’t get full SB so really it would be getting your pay in one lump sum on July 1 instead of sept—aprkl
 
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Fogelhund

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BertCorbeau said:
The East Wild Card race could be fun this season.

Columbus is holding on to 8th right now.. wouldn’t mind seeing them sneak in
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That's a surprise, though they've had a decent last ten games. They are fourth in PCT, but they ARE right in the thick of things.

I'd say technically Ottawa is in the first wild card position in the East, give points percentage, with Boston in second Tampa is shown as a wild card as they are one point down on Boston, but have played FIVE less games.

Ottawa 0.526
Boston at 0.523
Montreal 0.513
Columbus 0.512
Pittsburgh 0.500
Detroit 0.500
Philly 0.476
NYR 0.475
NYI 0.463
Buffalo 0.427

I'd say only Buffalo and NYI are truly out of it, but I don't think Philly or Detroit have any chance realistically. Pittsburgh seems doubtful, but Crosby.
 

TheTotalPackage

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BertCorbeau said:
The East Wild Card race could be fun this season.

Columbus is holding on to 8th right now.. wouldn’t mind seeing them sneak in
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I'm struggling to decide which is more surprising -- the Capitals right at the top of the conference, or the Rangers near the bottom. I have to go with the latter considering I thought heading into the season the Rangers had the tools (on paper) to be a Cup contender.

Wild Card is definitely going to be intriguing. I'd much rather see the Canadiens, Senators or Red Wings in the playoffs over the Blue Jackets and Penguins. Although this year I can get behind the Blue Jackets making it in after what transpired in the summer.

Both those latter teams in the position they are in thanks to being propped up with the amount of OTL points they have accumulated. The same way the Flames and Canucks have been propped up on the other side.
 
NinjaKick

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the devils have something special... brilliant scouting, drafting, and development. their cup window is open for the next decade.
 

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Evilhomer said:
The world goes on. If you are over the age of 16 and you live and die by this stuff, you aren't doing life correctly.


You tinker around the edges and try again. Like it or not, there is no other path. They are wed to this group until Matthews' contract expires.
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I think it is time to retool if it another first round exit.
Use the 22mil from MM and JT wisely. Not necessary signing UFAs but can make trades with teams.
 

Lightsol

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Gabriel426 said:
I think it is time to retool if it another first round exit.
Use the 22mil from MM and JT wisely. Not necessary signing UFAs but can make trades with teams.
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"Hey, let's improve the team by putting more of the offense on the guy with the bad back and the guy who shows up when he feels like it!"

If you're trying to spread the wealth around by replacing Marner, you at least need to find one good scorer and one good defensive player, and I'm betting you'll be hard pressed to get both for a combined $11 mil. And then you have to also replace Tavares' PPG totals.
 

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Lightsol said:
"Hey, let's improve the team by putting more of the offense on the guy with the bad back and the guy who shows up when he feels like it!"

If you're trying to spread the wealth around by replacing Marner, you at least need to find one good scorer and one good defensive player, and I'm betting you'll be hard pressed to get both for a combined $11 mil. And then you have to also replace Tavares' PPG totals.
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I would take my chances on new players than the core of 1 playoff series win in 9 playoffs(if another first round exits).

Goal is for the Leafs to win the Cup and not have MM, AM, JT, Willie and Reilly win the Cup for the Leafs.

Maybe the players brought in won’t have stats like JT and MM but if they collectively can win the Cup for the Leafs. Who cares if none of them ever score more than 60pts in a season. The point is to replace MM and JT to make a better team with better chance to win the Cup and not replace MM and JT on the team.

Bérubé led a Blues team that didn’t have top end offensive talents like the Leafs to a Cup, whose to say he can’t do that with the Leafs without MM and JT.
 
HolyCrap

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ULF_55 said:
Canucks on the PP and they do that stupid passback twice in a row to no one.

That just proves it isn't an intelligent move, it is an overused set play that everyone knows is going to happen. Just lazy brain play.
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I’m waiting for a team to figure out the forward pass on a PP.
 
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