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LeafEgo said:
I'm not sure I asked earlier as well. But they just did 50% with Vatrano. That's a lot of wiggle room.
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50% is quite a bit.

If Marner wants 13mil and willing to do 50% deferred payments, his cap hit could be 7.5mil or so.
This is a game changer for a lot of teams.
 
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Gabriel426 said:
50% is quite a bit.

If Marner wants 13mil and willing to do 50% deferred payments, his cap hit could be 7.5mil or so.
This is a game changer for a lot of teams.
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You have to compensate Marner to defer payments (in Vatranos case it was 10 years) with a higher than 'wanted' price point. I'm not sure it's even possible to get to a 7.5M cap hit with a max contract. He's probably just take the 8x13M.
 
Gabriel426 said:
50% is quite a bit.

If Marner wants 13mil and willing to do 50% deferred payments, his cap hit could be 7.5mil or so.
This is a game changer for a lot of teams.
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Would it? Half the Vatrano money is deferred and yet the cap hit only went down by a quarter
 
LeafEgo said:
You have to compensate Marner to defer payments (in Vatranos case it was 10 years) with a higher than 'wanted' price point. I'm not sure it's even possible to get to a 7.5M cap hit with a max contract. He's probably just take the 8x13M.
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Especially since a big portion of his contract will be in annual bonuses rather than salary. I think this structure will work very well for a Tavares contract, but not a Marner contract.
 
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Suntouchable13 said:
Tampa is damn good, they have the best goal differential in the division. I don’t want to face them in the playoffs.
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The goal differential is because they had a handful of lopsided wins earlier in the season. I would be thrilled to see the Leafs play Tampa in the first (or second) round. Toronto would dispatch them easily.
 
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Gabriel426 said:
50% is quite a bit.

If Marner wants 13mil and willing to do 50% deferred payments, his cap hit could be 7.5mil or so.
This is a game changer for a lot of teams.
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You're forgetting to add back in the present value of the 50% that is deferred.

They don't get to write off the whole 50%. They have to calculate what that money would be worth in today's dollars and that is added back on to determine overall AAV. Depending on factors like what rate of interest and inflation they use and the number of years it's deferred over it is still likely to be a pretty large number.

Probably closer to 75% than 50% of the AAV without deferral.
 
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LeafEgo said:
I'm not sure I asked earlier as well. But they just did 50% with Vatrano. That's a lot of wiggle room.
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Say they wanted to do 3 x 18 for JT

Could they not just do million differed to a full sb July 1 of the 4th year?
 
Anyone else think it's stupid Grubauer is allowed Native American artwork on his helmet but Fleury wasn't.

The NHL itself is stupid. I know this because they do a lot of stupid things. The list is too lengthy to include here.

But rest assured you won't have to wait long before they make another head scratching decision of some sort.

It's all Bettman's fault. At one point I thought growing the game at all costs was the right way to go too. I even gave consideration to Bettman's wet dream of league parity before dismissing it as the nonsense it is.

Free markets prove winners will always win and losers will always lose.

The ECHL has seen over a hundred teams come and go. They average a churn rate of three teams a year. They're still a going concern.

The NHL won't go broke cause a couple unprofitable loser organizations fold.
 
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Evilhomer said:
The goal differential is because they had a handful of lopsided wins earlier in the season. I would be thrilled to see the Leafs play Tampa in the first (or second) round. Toronto would dispatch them easily.
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I agree but what would you do if they did not in round #1?
 
LeafsNet said:
Funny how the NHL is panicking now, like this wasn't an issue ten years ago. They still haven't figured out that oversaturating the league with outdoor games will cause the lure of these games to decrease.

Also funny how to this day the most attended and watched outdoor game is the 2014 Winter Classic...I remember the NHL claiming a Canadian team would cause a drop in ratings.

Reality was this.

105,491 in attendance at the Big House in Ann Arbor (#1 among outdoor games).

8,234,000 viewers across the United States and Canada (most-watched regular season NHL game in history).

Take a hint already.

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Oh, I can tell you why they're failing. Because they're putting together Winter Classic combinations that either involve terrible teams (who wants to watch Chicago right now? Even with Bedard, they're terrible) or involve low-key rivalries rather than big ones.

The league needs to pick at least one team that is currently winning and has a decent to large fanbase to draw interest. No one cares about Chicago-St. Louis.
 
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Aashir Mallik said:
Yea that is true, can only imagine how different things would look if he and celebrini could swap places right now

but man, the expectations placed on him to carry that dumpster fire of a team were way too much.
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Chicago was expecting Bedard to have a Kane-like impact on them, but the situation is very different; Chicago drafted Kane as the finishing piece of a years-long rebuild, and they had multiple young pieces ready to jump in at the same time (Keith, Seabrook, Toews). OTOH, this time they have Bedard and... :dunno:
 
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ToneDog said:
I agree but what would you do if they did not in round #1?
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The world goes on. If you are over the age of 16 and you live and die by this stuff, you aren't doing life correctly.

ToneDog said:
I guess I should have add, "if you were the Leafs". Summer can't come soon enough. :thumbu:
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You tinker around the edges and try again. Like it or not, there is no other path. They are wed to this group until Matthews' contract expires.
 
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