Around the League - 2023 Offseason Edition

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He traded Kadri to balance it out which I appreciate

Lets be real here, he traded Kadri because the Leaf fandom at large was calling for his head and Dubas caved. Had Kadri not been suspended that year I seriously doubt they would have traded him. They were barely emotionally able to do it with the suspension.
 
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I don't at all. I think Dubas corned himself with his stupid 'we can and we will' comment. Basically forced himself to keep four overpaid forwards (his making) and not trading one to balance his team out properly.

Basically he chose pride of making correct decisions. His star players let him down in the postseason for sure, but the defensive groups he put together were obviously not going to win anything.
Idk, the Leafs defense the last two playoffs has actually been really decent. If Matthews and Marner show up at all last year against the lightning and this year against the Panthers theres a very good chance they win those series. Goaltending was also a problem, but they weren’t giving up a ton of goals either year but we’re only scoring like 2.5 goals a game.
 
I wish we could add him to the management group here but he’s going to go be a GM somewhere even if it isn’t for another year or so.
 
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I'm not surprised. The way he reacted when his team won or lost was that of a person who knew his job was on the line.
But it really wasn't. Everything points that this was his decision. Leafs wanted him back.
 
Lets be real here, he traded Kadri because the Leaf fandom at large was calling for his head and Dubas caved. Had Kadri not been suspended that year I seriously doubt they would have traded him. They were barely emotionally able to do it with the suspension.
Nah, this is where I disagree massively. Kadri was always going to be traded after they signed Tavares. He was a total waste in the 3rd line, and they needed help on defence. I'm not sure about the timeline, but wasn't the trade to Calgary for Brodie contemplated even before the last suspension?

Now when he was suspended again, that forced Dubas to act, he couldn't wait for the perfect deal, Kadri was done. But the initial and IMO main motive was still the roster construction one.
 
Dubas will be the GM for another team whenever he's ready to jump back in. Never doubt the old boys club but I can't imagine he wouldn't be near the top of many teams' lists if they have an opening. For his sake hopefully it'll be in a place where you don't have clowns like Simmons trying to get him fired the minute he's hired.
 
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Dubas will be the GM for another team whenever he's ready to jump back in. Never doubt the old boys club but I can't imagine he wouldn't be near the top of many teams' lists if they have an opening. For his sake hopefully it'll be in a place where you don't have clowns like Simmons trying to get him fired the minute he's hired.

Dubas is anything but a favorite of the "Old Boys Club."
 
Logan Cooley staying in school instead of joining the Yotes
What’s the rush ?

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Dreger is convinced that Treliving is going to Toronto, it makes sense.

IMO Dubas was the best guy to fix the Leafs short term. Any new GM won't want to make radical moves without knowing his team first and the Leafs need a few radical moves very quickly.

I wasn't a fan at first but I now believe that Dubas will be an excellent GM. He learned a lot in the last 5 years...the way he was building his team at the beginning compared to how he did it at the end was night and day.
 
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Dubas is an objectively good general manager. He was not perfect by any means and was partially hobbled by some of the dumbass mistakes of his predecessor, but the Leafs enjoyed great regular season success while he was running the show, they just couldn't parlay that into playoff success, for a number of reasons.

If and when he decides to come back he'll absolutely kill it.

Personally if there was a mistake made it was handing all that money to John Tavares. Everything else that tripped them up can be traced to that one signing. Suddenly the other members of the core were not about to take any sort of discount, and then Tavares himself began to decline and now doesn't even come close to justifying that massive contract.

I also think, in hindsight, that despite his immense talent and hockey sense, that Mitchell Marner ain't The Guy. Too often he's a ghost in the postseason and in big games. He could very easily flip that narrative and he's still relatively young but I just don't think he's ever become the elite gamebreaker that contract he held out for calls for.
 
Personally if there was a mistake made it was handing all that money to John Tavares. Everything else that tripped them up can be traced to that one signing.
Exactly this. If Tavares never go to Toronto then Matthews and the rest of the guys don't try to nickel and dime the org and Matthews becomes the leader of that new era. Instead they gave the room to an outsider who honestly doesn't have the personality of a leader.

At the time every GM was blinded by the 1-2 punch at center following the Pens success so I don't blame Dubas for Tavares but it should be a lesson about UFA's when the best one to hit the market in years turned out like this.
 
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Exactly this. If Tavares never go to Toronto then Matthews and the rest of the guys don't try to nickel and dime the org and Matthews becomes the leader of that new era. Instead they gave the room to an outsider who honestly doesn't have the personality of a leader.

At the time every GM was blinded by the 1-2 punch at center following the Pens success so I don't blame Dubas for Tavares but it should be a lesson about UFA's when the best one to hit the market in years turn out like this.
The whole notion of getting Tavares in the first place was predicated on the assumption that Nazem Kadri was not good enough as a 2C to build a championship roster around. Obviously we know that's not the case.
 
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